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Old 10-18-2020, 03:47 AM
 
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What the Covidiot doesn't understand is that you don't make money from manufacturing steel - you make money by buying cheap steel from foreign companies and then build the steel into something valuable. The money is in turning steel into product, not in the manufacturing.

In effect, the tariff hit the steel industry like a big sledgehammer. This is one of the reasons why the Midwest was in decline before Covid hit.

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Trump steel tariffs bring job losses to swing state Michigan

Four years later, Great Lakes Works - once among the state’s largest steel plants - has shut down steelmaking operations and put 1,250 workers out of a job. A year before the June layoffs, plant owner United States Steel Corp called off a plan to invest $600 million in upgrades amid deteriorating market conditions.

While the tariffs failed to boost overall steel employment, economists say they created higher costs for major steel consumers - killing jobs at companies including Detroit-based automakers General Motors Co and Ford Motor Co. Nationally, steel and aluminum tariffs resulted in at least 75,000 job losses in metal-using industries by the end of last year, according to an analysis by Lydia Cox, a Ph.D. candidate in economics at Harvard University, and Kadee Russ, an economics professor at the University of California, Davis. In all, they estimated, the trade war had caused a net loss of 175,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs by mid-2019.
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Old 10-18-2020, 04:18 AM
 
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What the Covidiot doesn't understand is that you don't make money from manufacturing steel - you make money by buying cheap steel from foreign companies and then build the steel into something valuable. The money is in turning steel into product, not in the manufacturing.

In effect, the tariff hit the steel industry like a big sledgehammer. This is one of the reasons why the Midwest was in decline before Covid hit.



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Gee-wiz I hope the laid-off steel workers will be able to find new jobs.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Jobs/St...-in-Detroit,MI

https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=steel+...=Detroit%2C+MI

https://www.careerbuilder.com/jobs?p...workhome=false

https://www.jobs-to-careers.com/sear...evancyWeight=0

https://www.snagajob.com/search?q=st...,+mi&radius=50

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q...5wtj1l-cLlQ3Mw

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Old 10-18-2020, 04:25 AM
 
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Indeed.com has 75 steel mill job openings in the entire state of MI. Some of the jobs are not steel related (such as HR or delivery drivers).

There are 75,000 people who lost their jobs.

Yes, I hope they will be able to find jobs. Mathematically each person only has to compete with 999 other people for a job.

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Old 10-18-2020, 04:35 AM
 
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Indeed.com has 75 steel mill job openings in the entire state of MI. Some of the jobs are not steel related (such as HR or delivery drivers).

There are 75,000 people who lost their jobs.

Yes, I hope they will be able to find jobs. Mathematically each person only has to compete with 999 other people for a job.

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You think the company that closed didn't have HR and delivery drivers?

As for the current Michigan job market....

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli....html#poststop
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Old 10-18-2020, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by beb0p View Post
What the Covidiot doesn't understand is that you don't make money from manufacturing steel - you make money by buying cheap steel from foreign companies and then build the steel into something valuable. The money is in turning steel into product, not in the manufacturing.

In effect, the tariff hit the steel industry like a big sledgehammer. This is one of the reasons why the Midwest was in decline before Covid hit.



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Oh - you came up with a new name - so much for acting your age. But then again - who in their right mind thinks buying cheap low quality steel is in the best interest of the US people - both in terms of safety and longevity.

The Bay Bridge was one of the projects outsourced to the Chinese - it was a disaster and cost way more than anticipated due to the problems with faulty materials incompetent engineers. China is not the builder of old - the Great Wall has lasted thousands of years - within the past 5 yrs due to poor quality materials and engineering they've had 37 bridge collapses. They don't have the regulations we do when it comes to production and it shows.
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Old 10-18-2020, 05:07 AM
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May I add that all production here is often hampered by over regulation - some good - some bad. The US is not the only place we see this happening to our steel plants - The UK is experiencing the same problem.
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Old 10-19-2020, 04:19 AM
 
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Oh - you came up with a new name - so much for acting your age. But then again - who in their right mind thinks buying cheap low quality steel is in the best interest of the US people - both in terms of safety and longevity.

The Bay Bridge was one of the projects outsourced to the Chinese - it was a disaster and cost way more than anticipated due to the problems with faulty materials incompetent engineers. China is not the builder of old - the Great Wall has lasted thousands of years - within the past 5 yrs due to poor quality materials and engineering they've had 37 bridge collapses. They don't have the regulations we do when it comes to production and it shows.

I didn't come up with Covidiot, it's been trending on social media. That's the new nickname until the next big Trump screw up.

75,000 job loss makes whatever lame reason you posted seems moot.

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Old 10-19-2020, 04:20 AM
 
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You think the company that closed didn't have HR and delivery drivers?

As for the current Michigan job market....

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli....html#poststop

You wrote some words but made no point.

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Old 10-19-2020, 04:21 AM
 
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I stopped reading right after "Right Wing Media".

Seriously.
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Old 10-19-2020, 04:43 AM
 
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For anyone who cares the article is a hit piece. Trash journalism hiding the results of the Covid shutdown intertwined with estimates from college professors.
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