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Old 10-22-2020, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Well, yes, according to Trump himself.

AND the government is going to pay for it - for the others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQFItVBKlAU
How do Trump supporters expect Trump to offer universal health care without having to do it by using socialism?
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:56 AM
 
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If true, it is because of Obamacare.
In 2007, it was 7,423 per capita.
Then Obamacare fixed it. It is now $12,118 per capita, and people only want to "tweak" Obamacare.


It needs to be repealed, and let a regulated free market do its job.
Don't provide FACTS. Those bed wetting snowflakes with TDS CAN'T handle them.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:58 AM
 
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The Republicans and Trump have no healthcare plan they wanna go back to the days where you could be discriminated against because you had a preexisting condition.

Where you got kicked off your insurance because you were too sick and you'd be up to your eyeballs in medical debt.

That's why Dems always win on the issue when it comes to Healthcare why they took back the house.
"they wanna go back to the days where you could be discriminated against because you had a preexisting condition."


Been debunked. Try and keep up.
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Old 10-23-2020, 06:02 AM
 
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He changed unconstitutional laws in Obama care. So now you need to call it Trumpcare.
Notice how now that ocare has been exposed and watered down, the left wants to change the name?


Sorry, it will be ocare until the last shred of the bill is extinguished.
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Old 10-23-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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Trump has been promising to destroy an actual healthcare plan (Affordable Care act) for years and to replace it with "something brand new and beautiful".

Last night was the most recent time the topic was brought up to him. What was his response and plan:

"What I would like to do is a much better healthcare, much better. We’ll always protect people with pre-existing. So I’d like to terminate Obamacare, come up with a brand new, beautiful healthcare. The Democrats will do it, because there’ll be tremendous pressure on them. And we might even have the House by that time. And I think we’re going to win the House. You’ll see, but I think we’re going to win the House. But come up with a better healthcare, always protecting people with pre-existing conditions."

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Old 10-23-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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He keeps talking about it. Says it's going to be the best ever. But the American people have never seen it.

For comparison, Biden's entire healthcare plan is right on his campaign website.
Why do we need one?

In 2008 no one thought we needed the government to take care of us all with national health care. Now it's just a given. It's amazing how in 12 years the argument has changed from "Do we need the government to be a nanny state?" to "How will our nanny state government take care of us?"
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Old 10-23-2020, 07:53 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Trump has been promising to destroy an actual healthcare plan (Affordable Care a act) for years and to replace it with "something brand new and beautiful". Last night was the most recent time the topic was brought up to him. What was his response and plan:

"What I would like to do is a much better healthcare, much better. We’ll always protect people with pre-existing. So I’d like to terminate Obamacare, come up with a brand new, beautiful healthcare. The Democrats will do it, because there’ll be tremendous pressure on them. And we might even have the House by that time. And I think we’re going to win the House. You’ll see, but I think we’re going to win the House. But come up with a better healthcare, always protecting people with pre-existing conditions."

He regurgitated exactly what he said in 2016. "Better,cheap heath care for all" & they still have no plan.

Getting rid of Obamcare WILL hurt pre-existing conditions until there is another plan for those with pre-existing conditions can transfer to immediately after they lose their plan.

Trump was a liar in 2016 & he is still lying.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:12 AM
 
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Mine will give me an itemization of what was charged as well. What they won't give me or you is what the insurance actually paid for each of those line items. That is the problem.
How may times do I have to say I get an itemized statement.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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He keeps talking about it. Says it's going to be the best ever. But the American people have never seen it.

For comparison, Biden's entire healthcare plan is right on his campaign website.
Where is Boobama Care Plan ? The Affordable (?) Act that covers nothing for a prima that is impossible to pay and keep it current ???? Where is the affordability of a plan pushed by Nazi Pelosi right before the Holliday by the no less Nazi command "Sign it and read it later" ?????? That Boobama Care Plan is an entire fraud since its conception ! A plan for idiots !
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:44 AM
 
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Where is Boobama Care Plan ? The Affordable (?) Act that covers nothing for a prima that is impossible to pay and keep it current ???? Where is the affordability of a plan pushed by Nazi Pelosi right before the Holliday by the no less Nazi command "Sign it and read it later" ?????? That Boobama Care Plan is an entire fraud since its conception ! A plan for idiots !

Yep we needed the 1990s Hillarycare plan when Bill was president. National health care in other words. But the healthcare industry spent billions defeating it cause it gutted their cash cow.



ACA was nationwide version Romneycare from Massachusetts. The Republicans made it clear they were going to stonewall Obama ON EVERYTHING he tried to do. Cant let a black president do anything or your KKK Proud Boys will lose faith in you. So he let health care industry write the thing with enough goodies that they wouldnt fight it. By this time corporations were discontinuing group plans as costs skyrocketed so healthcare industry was really worried. They loved a neo-fascist plan that required all breathing citizens to buy a PRIVATE POLICY from them. They would never went for anything that cut into their profits or gave the sucker consumer an even break.


For those wanting to pay three times what it costs per capita for healthcare in UK are welcome to their own private Country Club policies, just like in Britain or other countries where the rich were given the option. But the rest of us need a national healthcare with costs negotiated and managed. Not piecemeal private care that you are never sure what will cover until AFTER THE FACT. And frankly you go to hospital for EMERGENCY, you dont have time to shop around for best price or even to see if your private insurane covers that hospital. Need a national health care where you are covered wherever you need care. And without the GOTCHA of sorry not covered, you lose your home and put your family in deep debt. Thanks for playing health care casino game.
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