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We are finding that humans (our main concern, naturally) are not the only animals that get Covid. There was a news article recently that hundreds of minks on a fur farms were dying from Covid. So, lets assume then that wild animals: Rabbits, Squirrels, and Mice, can get it. We know bats might have been the original source. So we will likely be surrounded by cuddly little furry creatures that are infected. They won't be getting the vaccine. I have had two dead rabbits in the yard recently. If you like to hunt and like to eat wild game you might want to be more careful until more is known.
Of course it's not going away. That's why so many of us were saying hiding from he virus is not a strategy. Europe is now finding that out the hard way.
A vaccine will not eradicate the virus, especially when many prominent people are trying to convince people any vaccine that comes about while Trump is president is a vaccine no one should take. See Biden/Harris.
would it be reasonable to assume it would be no more effective than the flu vaccine? 40-60%?
do most of us agree that Covid appears to be more lethal than the flu?
As such, you're OK now with higher death counts from Covid than from the flu?
first of all its more deadly because its new. that doesn't mean it will always be that deadly. There is evidence that it is mutating to become less deadly. That's actually the expected (SCIENTIFIC) result.
its called attenuation. The virus has to be less deadly to survive and move from host to host. that's kind of a thing.
beyond that, we are gaining better understanding of how it works and what can be done to combat it.
Then there are new therapeutics coming on the market that are game changers.
more than likely it wont go away. more than likely it will attenuate. more than likely we will be able to treat it quickly.
more than likely the existence of COVID19, the medical/scientific community have learned some things that have changed the approach in the future and will leave us vastly more prepared for the next round of crazy pandemic
We are finding that humans (our main concern, naturally) are not the only animals that get Covid. There was a news article recently that hundreds of minks on a fur farms were dying from Covid. So, lets assume then that wild animals: Rabbits, Squirrels, and Mice, can get it. We know bats might have been the original source. So we will likely be surrounded by cuddly little furry creatures that are infected. They won't be getting the vaccine. I have had two dead rabbits in the yard recently. If you like to hunt and like to eat wild game you might want to be more careful until more is known.
No, it is not reasonable to assume the efficacy will be anything like that of flu vaccine. Different virus, different vaccines.
Yes, COVID-19 is more lethal than flu.
Why should that make anyone be OK with the higher death count?
How many Covid deaths are you willing to risk by ending the lockdowns, and reopening the economy?
If the answer is "zero", then you have set an impossible standard. To know that there is zero risk requires omniscience that extends infinitely out into the future. Human beings do not have omniscience, and thus, by your standard, you will never support reopening the economy. Are you willing to admit this?
If the answer is something higher than zero, then you agree with me. You are willing to risk Covid deaths by reopening the economy. How many deaths would you consider to be acceptable losses? What would the survival rate have to be?
Oh so then when would restrictions be removed? What is the next goal post?
I don't have the answers to those questions. We don't have a vaccine yet. We don't know how quickly the incidence will drop when a vaccine does become available. For some infectious diseases such as measles and polio, incidence dropped like a rock, people were that eager to get the vaccine for themselves or their kids. (Most adults had already had measles.)
I don't work in Covid research, so I don't know exactly what the next goal post will be.
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