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Old 10-26-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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If you’re law-abiding you’d have nothing to worry about.
Ahh ... the oldest comeback in the book.

What do you have to hide?

This is how privacy and personal rights are slowly chipped away over time. “What do you have to lose“, they say.

Nothing ... until the next guy comes along, and chips away at that.

And so on.

And so on.

This is precisely why us 2A advocates are unyielding and unwilling to give an inch.

That’s not ever going to change. And now there are millions of brand new gun owners out there who are quite likely to take the same attitude themselves.

Never going to happen.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yeah, ok. You sound like one of those fluoride in the water type of people. Lay off the drugs man.
actually I don't have any issues with fluoride


but the bill of rights...those first ten amendments is to protect the PEOPLE...and the government should not, shall not infringe




I understand YOU think its no big deal... but think about this...2nd amendment SPECIFICALLY states "shall not be infringed".... so if the government, can and does infringe (reduce the right even in the slightest bit) then the government can, and will reduce your other rights


if...yes IF, the 2nd amendment was revoked (or even reduced) that would, yes would, also effect/affect the 1st, 4th and 5th amendment






think about this:


under the 1st amendment...I have the right to say what I want about weapons...I can say I don't own any..or I can say I won millions


if being forced to register weapons:


then my words , based on the 1st amendment come into play...and with that my 5th amendment rights too, because I have the right not to self incriminate (through the 1st)...and since I no longer have the right not to self incriminate, is an open invitation to the "power that be" to confiscate said weapons..... which would render the 4th amendment null





the simple fact is these bill of rights..all work hand in hand with each other
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:26 PM
 
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yeah, screw Biden. hopefully a heart attack happens and we dont have to worry about him before election. semi srs. Kamala will get caught gangbanging some of the senate and get in trouble or rewarded with majority.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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yeah, screw Biden. hopefully a heart attack happens and we dont have to worry about him before election. semi srs. Kamala will get caught gangbanging some of the senate and get in trouble or rewarded with majority.
Cruelty aside, do you really think that this would somehow change the party’s views on gun control?
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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Cruelty aside, do you really think that this would somehow change the party’s views on gun control?
Of course not.

In all of human history, tyrants have sought to keep the populace disarmed, helpless and totally dependent. Our government is no different from any other band of tyrants, except maybe for intellectual honesty on why they want you to be powerless.

Some tyrants actually have the guts to tell you directly that they want you powerless because only they should have power and eff you for thinking otherwise. Ours don't have that level of courage, so they spin these fairy tales about how making you helpless is in your best interest because they looooovvvvveeeee you.

At least the people who get subjugated with honest force from a properly badass tyrant can still hold onto some self-pride, but people in America who parrot this "yessir, let's all be helpless because it will be teh betterz" are just dropping drawers and bending over because the government promised to love them and be gentle. We're the battered wife who goes back to the abusive husband because gosh darn it, we probably did deserve it.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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A forced buy back would mean that you either turn in your weapons or be in violation of unlawfully keeping the weapon in your possession. Here you’d have the choice of registering the weapon or if you aren’t interested in being added to a federal database then the gov’t would buy the weapon from you. I’m failing to understand what the big deal is? If you’re law-abiding you’d have nothing to worry about. If you aren’t law abiding you’d be incentivized to turn in your weapons as you’d be compensated for them.
You think people committing crimes care about your laws? If you can't understand that any further discussion is a waste of time. Your failing is just that, failing with a capital F.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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A forced buy back would mean that you either turn in your weapons or be in violation of unlawfully keeping the weapon in your possession.
It's ex post facto law and explicitly forbidden by the US Constitution.

Rule of law, good sir. It applies even to the tyrants who make the laws up.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Beavercreek, OR
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garbage.



these people aint gonna clean my gun rack
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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You think people committing crimes care about your laws? If you can't understand that any further discussion is a waste of time. Your failing is just that, failing with a capital F.
By that logic we should have no laws at all then right?
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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By that logic we should have no laws at all then right?
By that logic.........

Wow, the second oldest comeback ever. What the hell use is a law that is A. Unconstitutional B. Unenforceable



We right here in the good ol State of California passed a "law" that banned gay marriage. Do you need a lesson on how that ended?
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