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Old 10-31-2020, 04:32 AM
 
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You lost me as soon as I saw your link was from Breitbart.
Did you ever stop to to think WHY the MSM NEVER says the things in the Beitbart article?
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:01 AM
 
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Riddle me this, my conservative interlocutors, why didn’t Joe Biden take away your guns in the 47 years when, according to you, he had control of the entire US Government and could do anything he wanted? Why wait until now?

Furthermore, both Clinton and Obama had at least one congress in which Democrats controlled both the House and Senate.

And yet you still have guns. How is that possible???

It’s as if the whole “Democrats want to take your guns” line is a lie intended to scare people into voting against their economic interest.
" he had control of the entire US Government and could do anything he wanted?"

Isn't this what many on the left say about Trump?

NO conservative's have said that.

What HAS been said is that biden HAS voted on anti-gun laws.

"Furthermore, both Clinton and Obama had at least one congress in which Democrats controlled both the House and Senate." And passed the so-called assault weapon ban, based on LOOKS NOT "assault" type actions. Which by the way elapsed because it achieved ZERO promised results.

"And yet you still have guns. How is that possible??? Not ALL guns.

We have seen over the years things are achieved 1 small step at time.

MANY dem politicians have expressed they would LIKE to ban all guns, which is why we have OVER 20,000 gun LAWS on the books, which have achieved NOTHING, just look at chicago and balt, for mostly states.

I suggest you READ the ny and calif. gun laws as a starter.

Let me repeat OVER 20,000 gun laws on the books DESPITE the 2nd Amendment stating, "The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR arms shall NOT be INFRINGED".

Here is your chance to defend your ant-gun position. Explain to us how ANY of those over 20,000 law do NOT "INFRINGE "on "to keep and BEAR ARMS"

And we hear from many on the left how much the love and abide the "LAW"!

You do NOT need a physch report or a "permit" and have to take a course, which YOU have pay for all of them, to exercise your 1st amendment rights, so explain WHY we need them to exercise our 2nd amendment rights.

As has been said, take EVER one of the over 20,00o gun laws that VIOLATE the 2nd amendmet, and apply them to the 1st amendment.

How would you like THAT. Remember," The PEN is MIGHTIER the the SWORD"!

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Old 10-31-2020, 05:20 AM
 
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We still have our firearms. Yes indeed. Because the agenda if those who wish to see us disarmed has been defeated time and again. And that agenda is not a lie.

Nor will it disappear. That agenda has been repeated ad nauseam very publicly and with vehemence by many leftist politicians and vocal groups who support them and their agenda of disarmament of American citizens.

If it was possible to do so these enemies of the Constitution would not be talking. Other than to issue orders to forcibly relieve us of our firearms.

But the knowledge of what would transpire in that attempt keeps them from doing more than talk. The anti 2A rhetoric spewing from the holes under their noses is indeed a lie.

But their agenda is NOT. The reasons they use to justify that agenda are flaming lies. Demonizing firearms rights advocates, spewing about how we are violent radicals that pose a terrorist threat, how the gun rights advocacy groups and those who support them walk hand in hand with White supremacist ideology. Painting us with stereotype images of unkempt, drooling, backwoods ignoramuses that can barely string a sentence together.

Uneducated, unenlightened remnants of a history long past advocating for a Constitutional right that is obsolete and written in an obsolete document. Lies. Yes.

But their agenda is anything but.
"But their agenda is NOT. The reasons they use to justify that agenda are flaming lies. Demonizing firearms rights advocates, spewing about how we are violent radicals that pose a terrorist threat, how the gun rights advocacy groups and those who support them walk hand in hand with White supremacist ideology. Painting us with stereotype images of unkempt, drooling, backwoods ignoramuses that can barely string a sentence together."


And they NEVER talk about where MOST of the gun crimes ARE COMMITTED and WHO is committing them.


Which PROVES they are NOT interested in saving lives via guns.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:25 AM
 
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BUT YOU STILL HAVE GUNS!!!! It is all a lie.
Because the Democrats were voted out to stop further regulation, I guess they don’t teach reading comprehension anymore
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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And they (Dems) NEVER talk about where MOST of the gun crimes ARE COMMITTED and WHO is committing them.

Which PROVES they (Dems) are NOT interested in saving lives via guns.
^^^ this sums up this entire topic thread. Dems...fix your cities, then we can talk guns.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Because the Democrats were voted out to stop further regulation, I guess they don’t teach reading comprehension anymore
The democrats had complete control of congress and the presidency, what were these draconian gun laws that were passed.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:44 AM
 
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What Creepy Uncle Joe, Karmilla, and the rest of the radical loony left doesn't understand is that nothing they do will keep firearms off the streets and out of the hands of criminals. 1000 new laws won't make a difference. Just enforce the laws that are already there.

This is just another reason why Biden & the left are a danger to Americans. Taking away rights, liberties, and freedoms is not a good thing and goes against the principles on which this country was founded.
Which laws that could make a difference aren`t being enforced and who is it that isn`t enforcing them? I`ve been hearing this same whine for 50 years.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:45 AM
 
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The democrats had complete control of congress and the presidency, what were these draconian gun laws that were passed.
The 1994 “assault weapons ban” which included standard capacity magazines .....google it. The Democrats lost the House in the midterms because they voted for it even Bill Clinton said so it stopped further gun control regulations
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Good.. Who needs an arsenal of Hogan's Heroes in their closet? Ive been alive almost 40 years. Never needed a gun for anything. LOL
Goody for you! -- just stay in your safe, secure, sanitary world; but don't try to force your ideals upon those of us who live under a different set of circumstances.
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Old 10-31-2020, 06:06 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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"But their agenda is NOT. The reasons they use to justify that agenda are flaming lies. Demonizing firearms rights advocates, spewing about how we are violent radicals that pose a terrorist threat, how the gun rights advocacy groups and those who support them walk hand in hand with White supremacist ideology. Painting us with stereotype images of unkempt, drooling, backwoods ignoramuses that can barely string a sentence together."


And they NEVER talk about where MOST of the gun crimes ARE COMMITTED and WHO is committing them.


Which PROVES they are NOT interested in saving lives via guns.
Public safety is certainly not a priority in the anti 2A movement. But it makes for good melodramatic rhetoric aimed (pun intended) at invoking emotion driven support of their agenda.

Like the always dramatic but never accurate use of made up technical terminology about firearms and the citing of so called "trauma surgeons" talking about the "horrific and untreated" wounds that projectiles fired from an AR 15 inflict.

But those same bullets fired from any other firearm are nowhere near as destructive. But gey, a DOCTOR said this so it has to be true. These cretins entire platform is based on outright lies, conjured statistics, made up jargon that even SciFi literature envies and justifying it all by claiming public safety is what drives them.

The plumb fantastical terminology these people come up with and the well beyond exaggerations they use to describe the capabilities of firearms just go beyond the pale. And they would be truly hilarious if people weren't actually believing this nonsense.

And repeating it as immutable fact. Because it all sounds so SCARY man!! Anyone with any "common sense" would be frightened and see that we need to do something.

What sort of monster would argue against banning such dangerous devices and taking them out of civilian hands!? "Weapons of war" the sole purpose of which is to now down hundreds of people with a single pull of a trigger.

Think of the CHILDREN!! Oh my yes, the people making these impassioned pleas have only the public good at heart. Why else would they be bringing all this irrefutable information to the table?

And bleating like newborn miniature goats throngs flock to their banner armed with all these "facts" ready to take on the "gun lobby" and the packs of baccy drooling backwards "trailer trash" that make up their ranks.

It's all so very....moving. Like Michael Moore's bowels the morning after an anti 2A fundraising dinner where high fiber content was heaped on the plates. And spiked with Ex Lax.

Public safety. Yeah, these throngs of homorodentia will protect us. Never fear.
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