What's the true end goal of banning abortion? (abortions, money, states)

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Rachel976

No they wouldn’t. Maybe they’d have some humane restrictions, like not allowing a fully formed fetus to be pulled apart limb by limb at the 7-month point. If there’s a few states that ban it entirely, let Mama take a bus to the adjoining state and get it done there.

And before you loving leftists cry that Mama might be poor and can’t afford a bus ticket, you all can stop donating to Planned Parenthood and give to an “Abortion Travel Fund.” Believe me, there will be plenty of money available for women who can’t afford a $50 bus ticket and a $50 motel room.

Fact: abortion was illegal in Texas prior to Roe v Wade. Norma McCovey aka Roe lived in Texas, and had her unwanted pregnancy there. Hence the lawsuit that resulted in Roe v Wade

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Tencent

Libertarianism solves almost every American problem.

If people were allowed to starve and die AND allowed to purchase contraception efficiently and affordably with no restrictions then there would be no problems with poverty.

Both Democrats and Republicans have it wrong. My message to both:

Republicans: Keep Church and State separate
Democrats: Big Government and the Welfare State doesn't work.

Give people a time limit and total responsibility over their own health and welfare. Set a defined deadline for people.

"Welfare benefits will be terminated in 2030, indefinitely"

The birth rate would drop accordingly and as it should!

We should not be reproducing with the illusion that there are enough living wage jobs for all of these rugrats. Cut off the faucet and pass out birth control pills and condoms daily during the bridge period.

We need to take our country back from the sloth thinkers that cannot get over this false dichotomy and dog and pony show that is the two party system.

The real America is the frontier lifestyle, no help is on the way. Think fast and smart, do or die. No Church or Government required. People should invest in their own communities and homesteads as they please and are able.

Wow, your post is the most depressing thing I've read in a while. There's a reason that the majority of adherents of libertarianism are financially well off....

[crone]

All y'all pro birthers have forgotten about the Hyde Amendment.

[Angry-Koala]

Originally Posted by Aussiehoff

So just cull the underclass. So progressive of you....

Yeah, giving people the right to avoid a pregnancy that would put them in poverty = cull the underclass. So presumptive of you.

[Aussiehoff]

Originally Posted by Angry-Koala

Yeah, giving people the right to avoid a pregnancy that would put them in poverty = cull the underclass. So presumptive of you.

haha nice try. You said that banning abortion will result in the child living in poverty and going to jail. You said that is a result that pro lifers won't face. Your position is that killing the child is better than more poor and criminals in society.

So yes, that is you saying that a cull of the underclass is preferable to increasing the underclass.

Scratch a "progressive", and you often find a dark soul.

Margaret Sanger would approve of your thinking!

[sub]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Wow, your post is the most depressing thing I've read in a while. There's a reason that the majority of adherents of libertarianism are financially well off....

I wonder if you realize what you just admitted to there....

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by sub

I wonder if you realize what you just admitted to there....

I don't know what you're talking about. I just mentioned that most ardent libertarians are monetarily well off, because they have enough dough to use the private market to "solve" any problem they would have. The majority of us don't have that luxury

[Finn_Jarber]

What's the true end goal of banning abortion?

The GOP will never allow abortion to be banned, because it brings them millions of votes every election cycle. Banning abortion would make it practically impossible for them to win any future elections.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

The GOP will never allow abortion to be banned, because it brings them millions of votes every election cycle. Banning abortion would make it practically impossible for them to win any future elections.

I hope you're right, but with all these semi bans that have occurred in red states AND the pubs trying to ram anti-choice Barrett down America's throat, I'm not so sure anymore...

[vkhmini]

Originally Posted by nyyfanatic85

Because official state and sanctioned support of the deliberate termination of a human life should never be acceptable. Would it ever have been acceptable to say "I don't like slavery and won't own a slave, but the government should stay out of it" or "I don't like what's happening in the concentration camps, but keep the government out of it!" No! We support the ban because we don't believe that murder and killing should ever be a part of codified law. And because we strongly support HUMAN rights for all. Injustice in the mother's womb is a threat to justice everywhere.

In abortion, a heartbeat stops. A life extinguished forever. If allowed to live, this human would go on to kindergarten, graduate high school, get married, etc. and is utterly robbed of that chance by an abortionist who has complete power while the unborn has none and cannot fight back. Let's be honest with ourselves: the main reason so many people support abortion is because they support the unfettered right for sex with anyone with no consequences. And if a baby has to be sacrificed on the altar of convenience, so be it. Utterly depraved thinking!

I've never heard it said better.