What's the true end goal of banning abortion? (unemployed, ethical, regular)

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by sub

People can... do what they want, but should be fully prepared for the consequences. Otherwise, perhaps find other things to do.

That makes two of you^

Any others willing to admit the truth of their real intentions?

[sub]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Again, apples to oranges, and I'm not going to dignify your post with a response

No, we're all apples and a human is a human.

[vkhmini]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

There's a big difference. My parents planned my conception, were already married, and had the means to raise me.

So, your parents were responsible people. Good to know.

[vkhmini]

Originally Posted by sub

People can... do what they want, but should be fully prepared for the consequences. Otherwise, perhaps find other things to do.

Pretty simple solution.

[xray731]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Pro lifers (a misnomer if I ever heard one) will tell you it's about protecting unborn fetuses, but that is not true, as they don't give two farts what happens to the unwanted children after they're born.

I posit that the real end game is using fascist means to reverse the sexual revolution of the 60s&70s, to put an end to extramarital recreational intercourse, as they most likely believe that if pregnancies can no longer be legally terminated, that women will wait until they're married to engage in intercourse.

I'd be interested to hear any rebuttals of my hypothesis...

I have no idea where some of you come from and how y7our brains work.

Abortion will not be banned - we don't live in the 1600's. It's like racism - we are not living in the 1800's. Society as a whole has advanced so much and while there will always be a small % of people who will disagree with certain aspects of society - there is no way they can change it unless society becomes mute ( like Portland / Seattle) and let's the small percentage have their way.

I'm prolife but feel there are certain instances where abortion is warranted - a woman should not have to bear a rapist's child, not all people can deal with a child that has severe disabilities - I'd rather see a fetus aborted than be thrown in the dumpster but there in raises another problem. I do not feel abortion should be used as birth control.

And yes - prolifers most certainly do care about the unborn. I don't think they are stupid enough to think that sex before marriage will change. I'm sure they hope people learn to take more responsibility for their actions and use the birth controls that we have now mitigate unwanted pregnancies.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by vkhmini

Does the fact that a "fetus" is not capable of living outside the womb make it any less human?

By that same logic, an infant or toddler not capable of self-support and utterly dependent on someone else for food, clothing, shelter, etc., isn't a human. So why can't they also be killed at will if their mothers deem them an inconvenience?

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

By that same logic, an infant or toddler not capable of self-support and utterly dependent on someone else for food, clothing, shelter, etc., isn't a human. So why can't they also be killed at will if their mothers deem them an inconvenience?

No one is going to answer a question this stupid^

[sub]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

That makes two of you^

Any others willing to admit the truth of their real intentions?

Seriously?
I have no intentions other than warn people that if they engage in certain activity they might get pregnant.
That's a pretty big deal and a huge responsibility.
Even if they decide to go for an abortion, they should know there might be hefty emotional baggage to carry around with them for the rest of their life.
It's all about educating people, because apparently we as a society are doing a very poor job of that.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by xray731

I have no idea where some of you come from and how y7our brains work.

Abortion will not be banned - we don't live in the 1600's. It's like racism - we are not living in the 1800's. Society as a whole has advanced so much and while there will always be a small % of people who will disagree with certain aspects of society - there is no way they can change it unless society becomes mute ( like Portland / Seattle) and let's the small percentage have their way.

I'm prolife but feel there are certain instances where abortion is warranted - a woman should not have to bear a rapist's child, not all people can deal with a child that has severe disabilities - I'd rather see a fetus aborted than be thrown in the dumpster but there in raises another problem. I do not feel abortion should be used as birth control.

And yes - prolifers most certainly do care about the unborn. I don't think they are stupid enough to think that sex before marriage will change. I'm sure they hope people learn to take more responsibility for their actions and use the birth controls that we have now mitigate unwanted pregnancies.

Re read post #21

[sub]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

By that same logic, an infant or toddler not capable of self-support and utterly dependent on someone else for food, clothing, shelter, etc., isn't a human. So why can't they also be killed at will if their mothers deem them an inconvenience?

This argument makes them mad, but it's a very valid one to make.

Notice the non-response you get.