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Originally Posted by newtovenice
From clinical trials.gov:
Facial masks are expected to protect against viral infection in two ways;
By reducing the risk of getting the virus in via the mouth or nose via respiratory droplets or aerosol
By reducing the transfer from virus-contaminated hands to the mouth or nose
Hypothesis The use of surgical facial masks outside the hospital will reduce the frequency of COVID-19 infection.
Do you have a link and a date for that info? I do remember, back in April, that was thought to be true.
In recent information, the benefit of a mask to the wearer was thought to be much less than the benefit to the others.
Just a suggestion - please don't try to dazzle us with science when you are so obviously ignorant of science. Lockdown skeptics is not exactly a known and trusted source for scientific information. And even at that, here's how the story at your link concludes (emphasis my own):
Catch 22: "We cannot say what they are dissatisfied with because then we would have to tell you what our conclusions are, and we certainly can't discuss our own conclusions."
If Dr. Professor Christian Torp-Pedersen doesn't want to discuss it, then he shouldn't discuss it. The reason that refereed scientific journals such as JAMA reject papers is because the authors of said paper have not submitted an article which includes reproducible results.
For example, I could submit an article to JAMA stating that the germ theory of disease is incorrect because I sampled a subset of CD poc members and I could find no evidence of bacterial or viral infection in any of them even though they all displayed a propensity for sick thinking. When my article got rejected, I would then state that my conclusions were rejected because they are "unpopular" and I don't want to specifically discuss my conclusions, anyhow.
I swear, the American people all deserve to die of covid and then get their bodies cremated from global warming. It would serve the vast majority of us right if we did.
Facial masks are expected to protect against viral infection in two ways;
By reducing the risk of getting the virus in via the mouth or nose via respiratory droplets or aerosol
By reducing the transfer from virus-contaminated hands to the mouth or nose
Hypothesis The use of surgical facial masks outside the hospital will reduce the frequency of COVID-19 infection.
Exactly. They expected to find that masks work. What did they find that was controversial? Hopefully a journal will have the guts to publish the study.
Exactly. They expected to find that masks work. What did they find that was controversial? Hopefully a journal will have the guts to publish the study.
Miss Teri, you have a history of posting pretty biased study information and here again we see this study article coming from an organization that appears to be anti-mask from the onset.
Given your anti-vax history and posts to such sources as naturalnews, why should I even bother clicking on a source that is telling me ahead of time that they have an agenda?
P.S. Those are the folks saying the HPV vaccine tests was killing girls in India and upon investigation they were counting deaths from traffic accidents, drowning and even snake bite.
Miss Teri, you have a history of posting pretty biased study information and here again we see this study article coming from an organization that appears to be anti-mask from the onset.
Given your anti-vax history and posts to such sources as naturalnews, why should I even bother clicking on a source that is telling me ahead of time that they have an agenda?
P.S. Those are the folks saying the HPV vaccine tests was killing girls in India and upon investigation they were counting deaths from traffic accidents, drowning and even snake bite.
That’s disgusting. I’m glad I refrained from clicking on the link.
I updated the OP to correct my mistake regarding double blind placebo controlled.
Is there truly any real evidence that masks protect others?
The Kirkland Washington choir practice super-spreader event this March convinced me that coronavirus can REALLY spread quickly. This was when they were talking distancing and not so much about masks.
Another bit of evidence is the difference in case numbers in the mask vs the anti-mask states. That right there ought to be enough to convince anybody.
“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”
No, you don't understand. The article you quoted is in regard to influenza, not the novel Coronavirus.
You are the one who is ignoring information from the CDC. Here you go, straight from the horse's mouth:
Read the link I provided and then get back to us with your oh so informed conclusions.
You do realize that nothing you posted contradicts anything the person you responded to, right? And in fact reinforced the fact that Covid and the flu are transmitted by the same mechanism, right? And that if masks don't work for limiting transmission of the flu, it is reasonable to assume that it also is not actually effective with limiting transmission of other viruses transmitted in the same manner.
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