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Old 10-27-2020, 12:00 AM
 
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Myself and most Democrats who I know are not very liberal, I think these ideas only dwell in your mind.
You are very liberal if you support court packing, ending the senate filibuster, adding DC and Puerto Rico as states. Polling evidence shows most Americans all of these.

I'm sorry but these aren't moderate positions. A lot of democrats keep calling themselves moderates as if that gives some credibility but end up supporting the vast majority of what for example AOC proposes.

Trump is far right on many issues like immigration and climate change, there's no doubt about that IMO. But both sides have the lost the ability to correctly define what the center ground is.

If Biden is truly a centrist (and he certainly has been one throughout his career) he will not pander to the likes of AOC, Liz Warren and Bernie.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:11 AM
 
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With Biden we will be heading towards more solar power. I think that's a good thing because fossil fuels pollute, they run out but we can still use some if and when we need it. Clean air would be a good thing.

I'm not in favor of illegal immigrants but Reagan was a Republican who granted AMNESTY to them!

Many of today's Republicans have drifted way too far to the right. They talk about crazy conspiracies like someone is going to implant chips into their bodies and they talk about Qnon or whatever it is. Most people, both Repubs and Dems have no idea what that Qnon ?? thing is and most people have no idea of what Antifa is either. These are not things we believe in or even know about. Proud Boys? That's what Repubs want? I will not accuse you of that but don't accuse us of Antifa or riots because that's fringe stuff that people only hear about on the news.
I was no fan of Reagan's and was against his amnesty. That said, the democrats promised Reagan that it would be the one and only amnesty never to happen again (there have since been several stealth amnesties and not to mention DACA); the democrats promised that no illegal alien will ever be able to work in the US (we currently have 8 million no-match SSNs in the workforce); the democrats promised that the border would be secured (that was a blatant lie). In his later years, Reagan regretted doing the amnesty due to the democrats reneging on every promise they had made. Too little, too late on Reagan's part.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:12 AM
 
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Thread title: Biden is a moderate centrist stop the "radical left" nonsense

It really doesn't matter. Neither him nor Harris will be running things.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Thread title: Biden is a moderate centrist stop the "radical left" nonsense

It really doesn't matter. Neither him nor Harris will be running things.
I just hope you're right!
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:29 AM
 
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Biden is a moderate centrist stop the "radical left" nonsense

Have you realized yet that Trump exaggerates absolutely everything?

Do you think any socialists actually consider Biden one of them?

Before this election it would sound stupid to say Biden was radical left

and it still does.

Even Bernie Sanders is actually more representative of a Scandinavian "Social Democrat" mixed economy
than to a actual socialism where all industry is nationalized and there are no private companies

Half the country is Republican and there is the House and Congress to contend with.
Even if a president had some hardcore socialist policy they couldn't get it passed
and Biden if far from it. Let's stop the hyperbole people are tired of the whiplash
The maga right and the sjw far left are too stupid on biden why? Biden is more republican than he is democrat. He is centrist all around except for when it comes to taxes. Other than that. He is big on corporate business, tough on crime and into globalism vs autuky.

Now for thr far left. Please see my first paragraph. Also giving biden donations will not change America or change for black people and all other forms of identity. Biden already said he won't defund the police. Black folks you conned yourself.
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Biden is so moderate, if you didn't know which party he belonged to, once you read his stance on things, you would probably identify him as a Republican.
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Biden is a moderate centrist stop the "radical left" nonsense

Have you realized yet that Trump exaggerates absolutely everything?

Do you think any socialists actually consider Biden one of them?

Before this election it would sound stupid to say Biden was radical left

and it still does.

Even Bernie Sanders is actually more representative of a Scandinavian "Social Democrat" mixed economy
than to a actual socialism where all industry is nationalized and there are no private companies

Half the country is Republican and there is the House and Congress to contend with.
Even if a president had some hardcore socialist policy they couldn't get it passed
and Biden if far from it. Let's stop the hyperbole people are tired of the whiplash
Biden may be a career establishment type but all the people who are behind his candidacy are one step short of being communists. Biden is old and not in good health. Most likely he won't be around to finish his term.

Pick your poison: career establishment politician, or hard left socialists.
Basically that's the same as having your choice of either being shot, or hanged.
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:33 AM
 
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Joe Biden is a total idiot.
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by jonbenson View Post
Biden is a moderate centrist stop the "radical left" nonsense

Have you realized yet that Trump exaggerates absolutely everything?

Do you think any socialists actually consider Biden one of them?

Before this election it would sound stupid to say Biden was radical left

and it still does.

Even Bernie Sanders is actually more representative of a Scandinavian "Social Democrat" mixed economy
than to a actual socialism where all industry is nationalized and there are no private companies

Half the country is Republican and there is the House and Congress to contend with.
Even if a president had some hardcore socialist policy they couldn't get it passed
and Biden if far from it. Let's stop the hyperbole people are tired of the whiplash



Biden is a Trojan Horse candidate.

Whether or not he was at one time or is now a "moderate" is irrelevant.

Literally everyone around him that will be part of his administration and infulence him and his policy is an extreme Leftist.

And his rhetoric has definitely shifted farther left in order to try to keep the Bernie bots and Antifa sympathizers.

Not to mention Kamala being VP.
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Biden is a centrist? Oh I get it... The very far left loves having a centrist candidate.... Oh yeah, you guys are super believable and never try to deceive anyone.... /End sarcasm


There's no such thing as a "centrist" or "moderate" Democrat anymore.

JFK was a centrist, moderate.

Hell even Bill Clinton was reasonable back in his day in comparison to the current state of Left wing ideology.

Biden is a dinosaur being used by the far left to gain power as they drag him to the tar pits.
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