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Old 10-30-2020, 06:37 AM
 
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China is not the enemy that Trump and the media make them out to be.
A good relationship between the US and China (especially during COVID) would be a great thing for both countries, if not the world. US innovation with Chinese manufacturing.
That is a complete separation from reality.

China cheats on trade and its currency and has gutted US manufacturing (and middle class jobs) thanks to the work of Clinton, Biden, and Obama.

China is the biggest military threat the US faces currently and is a direct threat to our sovereignty.

Only an idiot would assume that China is a "friend". Biden, of course, needs to say this, as he has been paid to do so.
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Old 10-30-2020, 06:44 AM
 
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That is a complete separation from reality.

China cheats on trade and its currency and has gutted US manufacturing (and middle class jobs) thanks to the work of Clinton, Biden, and Obama.

China is the biggest military threat the US faces currently and is a direct threat to our sovereignty.

Only an idiot would assume that China is a "friend". Biden, of course, needs to say this, as he has been paid to do so.
LOL that guy reminds of that movie Mars Attacks. The martian chasing people while yelling into the Translator. "Don't run away, we are your friends." While his friends are blasting people. LOL

China is in fact our enemy and far more dangerous than Russia. China has the economic ability to do to us what we did to the USSR and they are already doing it.
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Old 10-30-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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China is not the enemy that Trump and the media make them out to be.
A good relationship between the US and China (especially during COVID) would be a great thing for both countries, if not the world. US innovation with Chinese manufacturing.
China is an enemy to anyone who wants freedom and liberty in their life.
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Old 10-30-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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China is an enemy to anyone who wants freedom and liberty in their life.
How has china infringed on your freedom?
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Old 10-30-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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How has china infringed on your freedom?
Well, they have turned their own population into slaves and have lowered the working standards of workers worldwide with unfair competition.

They have continuously stolen trade secrets from American companies which hurts all of us.

They have murdered Christians who were in their reach only trying to improve the lives of impoverished Chinese and Vietnamese people.
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Old 10-30-2020, 09:08 AM
 
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That is a complete separation from reality.

China cheats on trade and its currency and has gutted US manufacturing (and middle class jobs) thanks to the work of Clinton, Biden, and Obama.

China is the biggest military threat the US faces currently and is a direct threat to our sovereignty.

Only an idiot would assume that China is a "friend". Biden, of course, needs to say this, as he has been paid to do so.
what??? how is it china's fault that US companies decided to move manufacturing to their country?
how are they cheating on trade?

sure, I guess you can say they are the biggest military threat by default since they have the second strongest military behind the US.

but you're close to being right about one thing. the fact that they threaten our hegemony and global dominance is the reason why our govt/media has declared them an enemy and a threat. them being communist also makes is very easy to sell.

our leaders thought that a non-western, non-democratic country would rise up to become a legitimate competitor and now has to knock them down a few rungs to prevent them from overtaking us.
very similar to what they did to japan in the 90's when they were about to overtake us.
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Old 10-30-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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what??? how is it china's fault that US companies decided to move manufacturing to their country?
how are they cheating on trade?

sure, I guess you can say they are the biggest military threat by default since they have the second strongest military behind the US.

but you're close to being right about one thing. the fact that they threaten our hegemony and global dominance is the reason why our govt/media has declared them an enemy and a threat. them being communist also makes is very easy to sell.

our leaders thought that a non-western, non-democratic country would rise up to become a legitimate competitor and now has to knock them down a few rungs to prevent them from overtaking us.
very similar to what they did to japan in the 90's when they were about to overtake us.
You'll be better off with China as he global super power.

Said China.
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Old 10-30-2020, 12:42 PM
 
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LOL that guy reminds of that movie Mars Attacks. The martian chasing people while yelling into the Translator. "Don't run away, we are your friends." While his friends are blasting people. LOL

China is in fact our enemy and far more dangerous than Russia. China has the economic ability to do to us what we did to the USSR and they are already doing it.
Plus, China is the biggest thief of corporate/collegiate intellectual property and spies of US military tech/secrets.

The only reason we talk about China in the same breath as the US is because of this theft.
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Old 10-30-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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It is ironic those who are against Trump for his indiscretions are defenders and supporters of China with their human rights record no American would want to experience. When did it become fashionable to support others rather than our own.

Has Trump lied? Yep. Know any politician who hasn't? Biden lied during the televised debate, said he didn't say what Trump accused him of. Told Trump in front of the audience to prove it, put it on his website. You saw the result in the OP link.
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Old 10-30-2020, 10:48 PM
 
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It is ironic those who are against Trump for his indiscretions are defenders and supporters of China with their human rights record no American would want to experience. When did it become fashionable to support others rather than our own.

Has Trump lied? Yep. Know any politician who hasn't? Biden lied during the televised debate, said he didn't say what Trump accused him of. Told Trump in front of the audience to prove it, put it on his website. You saw the result in the OP link.
besides lacking freedom of speech/press/protesting govt (which most of their citizens do not value as much as other freedoms), what human rights are being violated?
if it's so bad, why do 93% of their citizens approve of the govt?
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