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Old 12-29-2020, 08:23 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy View Post
Getting a little defensive are we? The northern states are not without their faults. However, that isn’t the topic of discussion here. So with all of this deflecting and sprinkling of red herring arguments....let’s just get to the point. Are you in favor of removal of confederate statues and monuments in public spaces such as in front of state capitols and courthouses or are you in favor of leaving them where they are?
I am in favor of Free Speech --- you start doing one thing to one group and not to another group, there can not be favoritism within the law.

 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I am in favor of Free Speech --- you start doing one thing to one group and not to another group, there can not be favoritism within the law.
There you go avoiding the question. Confederate statues, do they stay or do they go?
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:31 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 25 days ago)
 
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There you go avoiding the question. Confederate statues, do they stay or do they go?
Free speech, does it stay or does it go -- ?


PS just in case you are missing it --- the Statues? What do they represent? Free Speech? If not, how?
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Free speech, does it stay or does it go -- ?
You have free speech to provide me with your opinion if the statues should be removed or not, and I’m patiently waiting for you to exercise it.
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:35 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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You have free speech to provide me with your opinion if the statues should be removed or not, and I’m patiently waiting for you to exercise it.
PS just in case you are missing it --- the Statues? What do they represent? Free Speech? If not, how?
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:38 PM
 
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Statement of the United Daughters of the Confederacy:

https://hqudc.org
Someone explain to me why I should care about the UDC? I'm sure there's a bunch of Leninists decrying the fact that Lenin statues have been melted down to make something more useful, but why do we care?
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:44 PM
 
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I'll ask you again, if antebellum culture was so bad, why do blacks today almost exclusively prosper as a community in the deep south?
Blacks are prospering in Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, and Durham. They are also prospering in Northern Virginia. These are places that let go of their antebellum ways. Mississippi hasn't let go. Many parts of Alabama haven't let go. Arkansas hasn't. Antebellum culture was not good for Blacks, or the South. Prove me wrong. And come up with some tangibles as to why you think antebellum culture is a good thing. I also notice you did not bother to refute anything I had to say.
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:45 PM
 
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Read Harper Lee, blacks in the south before the 60s were content with whites...
Sure, it was harmony and respect.



And if you put down To Kill A Mockingbird with the impression that blacks in the south were content, I'm not sure you understood it.
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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PS just in case you are missing it --- the Statues? What do they represent? Free Speech? If not, how?
I would argue that we are going beyond constitutional rights in the case of taxpayer funded monuments that grace public spaces, but hey, at least we know where you stand. So you support the preservation of these traitorous confederate statues and monuments (many of which were intended to promote and justify Jim Crow laws in the south I might add).

Well sir, I respectfully disagree.
 
Old 12-29-2020, 08:50 PM
 
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Motivation for succession --- they did not want to be made slave to a government dictating to them...
What an interesting turn of phrase. Am I to take it that "being made slave" is kind of bad?
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