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R. E. Lee was the best tactician of the Civil War. Statue removal is outright wrong and shall be corrected.
Lee was the first one offered command of the Union Army by Lincoln. He CHOSE to fight against the United States because his wife owned slaves. That is known as treason according to the laws if the U.S.
His statues need to become part of an artificial reef 60 or 80 miles offshore.
Historian analyzes photo of rioter with Confederate flag in US Capitol
A photographer named Saul Loeb captured an image of a man carrying a large Confederate battle flag during the pro-Trump riot inside the US Capitol on Wednesday.
Though the Confederate battle flag originated during the US Civil War, it never entered the Capitol during that time.
Behind the man in the photo, two portraits reflect the fractured nation of the country during the 1860s.
To the man's right is a portrait of Charles Sumner, an abolitionist. To his left is a portrait of John C. Calhoun, a defender of slavery.
The neat part is, the guy with the Confederate flag is a Canadian biker. I doubt hew was carrying it because of his "heritage". He knew well the racist connotations of flying the Southern Swastika.
The neat part is, the guy with the Confederate flag is a Canadian biker. I doubt hew was carrying it because of his "heritage". He knew well the racist connotations of flying the Southern Swastika.
In other words, why do you continue to defend race-based enslavement 'as a positive good'?
Your argument predates Calhoun's? What does that mean?
"It is known"?
I don't think race-based enslavement was a good thing.
I think the concept of slavery and southern heritage are what produced the African American community today.
The concepts of Slavery (even seen in the USA) are similar to aristocratic virtues like stability and tradition over innovation/industry.
Calhoun is correct in that sense, but he uses logic to justify investment into free labor to expand cotton production. This is self motivated, not out of concern for the black populace.
I don't think race-based enslavement was a good thing.
I think the concept of slavery and southern heritage are what produced the African American community today.
The concepts of Slavery (even seen in the USA) are similar to aristocratic virtues like stability and tradition over innovation/industry.
Calhoun is correct in that sense, but he uses logic to justify investment into free labor to expand cotton production. This is self motivated, not out of concern for the black populace.
What point are you attempting to make by providing that link?
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Main article: Reconstruction era
Reconstruction revisionism
Main article: Dunning School
In the early part of the 20th century, some white historians put forth the concept of Reconstruction as a tragic period, when Republicans motivated by revenge and profit used troops to force Southerners to accept corrupt governments run by unscrupulous Northerners and unqualified blacks. Such scholars generally dismissed the idea that blacks could ever be capable of governing.[8]
Notable proponents of this view were referred to as the Dunning School, named after influential Columbia historian William Archibald Dunning. Another Columbia professor, John Burgess, famously wrote that "black skin means membership in a race of men which has never of itself... created any civilization of any kind."[9][8]
The Dunning School's view of Reconstruction held sway for years. It was represented in D. W. Griffith's popular movie The Birth of a Nation (1915) and to some extent in Margaret Mitchell's novel Gone with the Wind (1934). More recent historians of the period have rejected many of the Dunning School's conclusions, and offer a different assessment.[10]
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Culture
Black literacy levels, which rose during Reconstruction, continued to increase through this period. The NAACP was established in 1909, and by 1920 the group won a few important anti-discrimination lawsuits. African Americans, such as Du Bois and Wells-Barnett, continued the tradition of advocacy, organizing, and journalism which helped spur abolitionism, and also developed new tactics that helped to spur the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s. The Harlem Renaissance and the popularity of jazz music during the early part of the 20th century made many Americans more aware of black culture and more accepting of black celebrities.
Instability
Overall, however, the nadir was a disaster, certainly for black people and arguably for whites as well. Foner points out:
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...by the early twentieth century [racism] had become more deeply embedded in the nation's culture and politics than at any time since the beginning of the antislavery crusade and perhaps in our nation's entire history.[38]
Similarly, Loewen argues that the family instability and crime which many sociologists have found in black communities can be traced, not to slavery, but to the nadir and its aftermath.[26]
Foner noted that "none of Reconstruction's black officials created a family political dynasty" and concluded that the nadir "aborted the development of the South's black political leadership."[39]
I don't think race-based enslavement was a good thing.
I think the concept of slavery and southern heritage are what produced the African American community today.
The concepts of Slavery (even seen in the USA) are similar to aristocratic virtues like stability and tradition over innovation/industry.
Calhoun is correct in that sense, but he uses logic to justify investment into free labor to expand cotton production. This is self motivated, not out of concern for the black populace.
To use your phraseology: it's important to remember:
Slaver States v. Free States & their negotiations began at the Constitution Convention & continued right on up to & throughout the American Civil War. Here's just some of the evidence:
A review of the Congressional Record of the 36th Congress reveals more than 300 proposals in regard to negotiations, some of these are Amendments to the United States Constitution, all are designed to avert military conflict. (President Buchanon was the 1st to propose.)
'US Constitution & Secession' is a recent book by Dwight Pitcaithley. His book focuses on analyzing the many amendments proposed during this time frame, all designed to avert military conflict.
Basically he breaks down 350 different topics in the proposed 67 amendments. Slavery expanded in the territories is the largest topic cited. The Slaver State position was that Government should protect slavery because slaves are property. 90% of the amendments proposed were about protecting slavery. 2 out of the 350 discussed tariffs. 5 were logical exit strategies for secession. One described having 4 Presidents, 1 each for North, South, East & West.
The Slave States seceded to protect slavery & the notion of white supremacy.
Southern states were railing against the Northern states, its people, abolitionists, & Lincoln.
Slaver States were willing to trade State authority to protect slavery for Federal authority to protect slavery.
The States' right to own people as property was what the Slaver States were fighting for.
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