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View Poll Results: Which state will likely vote for Biden?
Michigan 23 35.38%
Ohio 1 1.54%
Pennsylvania 5 7.69%
All of them 10 15.38%
None of them 26 40.00%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-28-2020, 07:48 AM
 
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Michigan is the most likely of these to flip back.

That’s why the Trump campaign stopped seriously contesting Michigan weeks ago.
This is false. The President is putting much effort into Michigan, he was just here yesterday. Biden is the one who walked away, same as Hillary in 2016. False pride and assumptions are dangerous things.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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Michigan is the most likely of these to flip back.

That’s why the Trump campaign stopped seriously contesting Michigan weeks ago.[/QUOyTE]

Of all the states Trump won I was stunned he won Michigan in 16 that was a big upset. I do not think he repeats that miracle again. Trump did have a rally in Michigan recently in Lansing I caught on CSPAN and had a good crowd as usual.
It’s sort of pointless for him to do a rally at Lansing. That place is a college city which votes blue all the time. He would have been better off campaigning at Muskegon or Kalamazoo.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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Michigan for sure. College students, Blacks, and UAW voters will certainly swing the state back to the blue end.
Um, those people were all here in 2016.

The union heads are still die hard Dems, not so much the workers. I see "Teamsters for Trump" signs and even saw a small parade of people with their pick up trucks all decked out for Trump with "Auto Workers for Trump" signs in a suburb of Detroit not long ago. My county flipped from years of going Blue to 58% Trump, 36% Clinton in 2016. What does Joe have, exactly, that would turn that around?
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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What does Joe have, exactly, that would turn that around?
Civility, humanity, decency, empathy, and competence.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Um, those people were all here in 2016.

The union heads are still die hard Dems, not so much the workers. I see "Teamsters for Trump" signs and even saw a small parade of people with their pick up trucks all decked out for Trump with "Auto Workers for Trump" signs in a suburb of Detroit not long ago. My county flipped from years of going Blue to 58% Trump, 36% Clinton in 2016. What does Joe have, exactly, that would turn that around?
Joe talks more about made in America and electric car technology revolution which would have a very positive impact on Michigan and guarantee better job security. Hillary never even touched upon those topics. That makes a big difference.
I work on the Ford Electrification team, and the Electric F150 will be built in Michigan at a state of the art facility. This is the kind of stuff that’s going to help revive our economy.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Only PA.

MI is pretty much tied in the polls, and there are many people who are ashamed to admit they will vote for Trump, but will do so anyway.

Trump is leading in FL and OH, which is very bad news for Biden, because there is no winning without them.

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It’s sort of pointless for him to do a rally at Lansing. That place is a college city which votes blue all the time. He would have been better off campaigning at Muskegon or Kalamazoo.
Why waste time on base pandering, when they are already in the bag? It makes sense to campaign in places where you can pick up additional votes, and that's blue areas in purple States. Miami, for example.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:57 AM
 
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Ohio has zero chance imo
in the ghetto / poor areas I see biden signs, but everywhere else I see trump signs.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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MI is pretty much tied in the polls
Nope, Biden leads by 8.7 in the RCP average.

Now, if you want to argue that the polls are wrong because of a hidden Trump vote or whatever, you can make that argument, but it’s just factually incorrect to say the polls are tied.
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Old 10-28-2020, 08:02 AM
 
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This is false. The President is putting much effort into Michigan, he was just here yesterday. Biden is the one who walked away, same as Hillary in 2016. False pride and assumptions are dangerous things.
Biden has been in the state within the past few weeks and has maintained more ad spending than Hillary. It has been his strongest state among all the swing states so I imagine his team is prioritizing at this point.

I think Ohio only goes Biden if he has a big win but I had to go 'all' since Pa is definitely leaning Dem at this point. I think Wisconsin is the state that should be grouped with Michigan and Pa- its not as solid for Biden but infinitely more reachable than Ohio.
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Old 10-28-2020, 08:02 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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PA likely
MI maybe but Im thinking Trump by .01 and a big big BIG legal fight.
OH is a stretch. Really a light red state. Not saying Dems should not try. OH is not Wyoming.
I agree with this, but I think MI is stronger to Biden than otto evidently does. We'll find out in about a week.
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