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Old 10-29-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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a sustainable plan of action.


Sure it is. It's your financial future that's not a sustainable plan of action.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:29 AM
 
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Exactly. I don’t think the masks or lockdowns are doing a damn thing. Whoever is going to get it and die there is no stopping it unless they have a lake cabin or island they can isolate at for a few years.

Time to open everything up 100% and throw the damn masks away.
Interesting...then do you care to explain how dense cities like San Francisco have extremely low rates and yet are still able to go shopping in crowded grocery stores and farmers markets without virus outbreaks? This pretty much applies to all places where masks are the norm and taken seriously.

The virus outbreaks tend to happen in places where masks are not widely used and social distancing is not observed among friends and family members. Take a look at all the mid-western states seeings skyrocketing rates of cases, places where this virus is not being taken seriously. Rural areas are seeing a sharp increase, yet dense cities...not so much.

COVID-19 Surges In Rural Communities, Overwhelming Some Local Hospitals

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ocal-hospitals
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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a sustainable plan of action.


Sure it is. It's your financial future that's not a sustainable plan of action.
What to you expect to happen during a pandemic? Do you expect people to fill up restaurants? Most will not chance it.

Most countries governments are helping their citizens financially to get through this.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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In terms of deaths per million people, both Germany and France are still doing much better than the US. That they are locking down doesn't mean Trump responded well to Covid. It means other countries are responding in ways that values their citizens lives more than our government is.


No, it means that they don't have a system of government and a Constitution that puts the responsibility of policy on States and local government, instead of the federal government.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:34 AM
 
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In terms of deaths per million people, both Germany and France are still doing much better than the US. That they are locking down doesn't mean Trump responded well to Covid. It means other countries are responding in ways that values their citizens lives more than our government is.
Do you ever hear much about the 19 other countries doing worse? No because that does not fit the political agenda.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:38 AM
 
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So you're not buying Trump's claim that we are "turning the corner" on the coronavirus?



It depends on how you define that.

Fact is we're much better off now in terms of our understanding of the virus and our ability to deal with it with treatments that lessen the severity and increase the chances of survival for those who are sick enough to need medical care.

Multiple vaccines are in the final stages of testing for approval thanks to Trump's Warp Speed program.

So, in that sense, it's not a big stretch of the imagination to use the "turning the corner" phrase.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:38 AM
 
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Germany - deaths/1M = 124

France - deaths/1M = 548

USA - deaths/1M = 703

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/



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Old 10-29-2020, 08:41 AM
 
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No, it means that they don't have a system of government and a Constitution that puts the responsibility of policy on States and local government, instead of the federal government.
And they don't have Federal level politicians telling the population to do the opposite of the what the State is saying.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:42 AM
 
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Germany & France locking down. We are in better shape than they are. Imagine that, the socialist little butterflies that they are.
You really think we are no better than Germany and France? How the mighty have fallen.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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Germany - deaths/1M = 124

France - deaths/1M = 548

USA - deaths/1M = 703

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/





The difference between 124 and 703 is satistically insignificant out of a million.

It's a 0.06% difference.
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