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Old 10-30-2020, 02:49 PM
 
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except at Trump rallies where about 20 people with masks are positioned behind the president for the video broadcast but 5,000 other people are not wearing masks and sitting next to each other for hours having loud intellectual conversations
No worse than all those folks who were not wearing masks at all those "peaceful protests".
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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They worse masks in the 1918 pandemic and 50 million people still died. With no masks maybe 55 million would have died. They help but not that much. Nature will have it's way..
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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Not 90 %. This article says 59 %. Mid July 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-mask-map.html
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:34 PM
 
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Yes, we should. First, let's get the construction equipment out to dig a miles wide moat all around our country to make it an island, then cut off anyone from coming onto our island. Much easier that way.

Lots of "non-island" Asian countries...Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, and most others out there doing much better than us with Covid.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:37 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Lots of "non-island" Asian countries...Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, and most others out there doing much better than us with Covid.
No, the US is doing much better than other countries, especially those in Western Europe. You know, the ones that were supposed to be so much better off according to those who have politicized this pandemic for 9 months-like you.

We are far better off than the rest of the world in terms of PPE, therapeutics, ventilators, testing and vaccine development. It is not even close. I realize the facts won't stop you from your panic mongering, at least until November 4th, but those are the facts.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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No, the US is doing much better than other countries, especially those in Western Europe. You know, the ones that were supposed to be so much better off according to those who have politicized this pandemic for 9 months-like you.

We are far better off than the rest of the world in terms of PPE, therapeutics, ventilators, testing and vaccine development. It is not even close. I realize the facts won't stop you from your panic mongering, at least until November 4th, but those are the facts.

7 deaths in Taiwan, 25 deaths in New Zealand...225K plus deaths and rapidly rising numbers now in good old USA.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:47 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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7 deaths in Taiwan, 25 deaths in New Zealand...225K plus deaths and rapidly rising numbers now in good old USA.
Islands that have been subjected to far more draconian lockdowns and tracing (surveillance) than here in the U.S.

I encourage you to move there since you prefer their lack of freedom so much.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:51 PM
 
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Islands that have been subjected to far more draconian lockdowns and tracing (surveillance) than here in the U.S.

I encourage you to move there since you prefer their lack of freedom so much.
But they are still doing better. Which is something you said was not true.
Stop moving your line in the sand.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:51 PM
 
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The masks most people wear are a joke. Look around — they are mostly flimsy single layer cloth masks that fit loosely on theif face. Some just tie scarves around their face. So these studies that say mask wearers are getting the virus aren’t done with competent masks wearers.
N95 masks work. They go through NIOSH testing and certifying.
We should have been given access to these masks months ago. They are STILL mostly being made in China.....
Thank NAFTA and corporations that moved manufacturing overseas for that.

Not everyone can wear a N95. They even put on the box that people with asthma and other breathing problems likely cannot breathe with them.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:53 PM
 
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Islands that have been subjected to far more draconian lockdowns and tracing (surveillance) than here in the U.S.

I encourage you to move there since you prefer their lack of freedom so much.

As I said before...tempted to move to New Zealand...killer surf spots and great Kingfish (Yellowtail) fishing!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-...in_New_Zealand


https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...i-anglers.html
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