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Old 11-01-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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and, I voted for Obama twice.

you guys are scary!

I'm not sure in what world striving for unity and harmony is a bad thing, but you're entitled to your opinion. The fact that you voted for hate, racism, and intolerance twice - and are apparently proud of it - is scary.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:22 PM
 
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I'm not sure in what world striving for unity and harmony is a bad thing, but you're entitled to your opinion. The fact that you voted for hate, racism, and intolerance twice - and are apparently proud of it - is scary.
one of us is very confused...
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:24 PM
 
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The impacts of presidential accomplishments typically take time to unfold so time will tell how Trump ranks.


Accomplishments:
NAFTA 2.0
Major tax legislation
Peace deals with Egypt and Israel. This can weigh more heavily over time if it leads to a deal with Palestine.

3 SCOTUS judges

No wars, peacetime president
Trade deals with China



Factors that be judged negatively;
Did not improve the healthcare insurance landscape.
Management of the Covid pandemic.
Increase of domestic violence and hate crimes.
Failed to significantly increase new manufacturing jobs in the USA
Corruption



In 5-10 years will will know the full scale of the Trump presidency, but as is it doesn't look good.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Very interesting article on the history of presidents and how the current one ranks at the bottom of the list.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...erican-history

“It seems obvious that Donald Trump is the worst president in my lifetime.

“Donald Trump, if he loses this election, will go down as one of the worst presidents in history because of his failure to unite the country, his abysmal handling of COVID and his xenophobic and racist tweets,” said Douglas Brinkley, a history professor at Rice University. “He’ll be remembered for leaving the country worse off than he found it. He’ll be down at the very bottom of the rankings hanging out with James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce.”

Sadly, Trump seems destined to spend posterity in the company of Buchanan, Pierce and Andrew Johnson, rather than on a mountaintop with Washington and Lincoln.“



Serious question:

Exactly how do you unite people who are bound and determined NOT to be united?

How do you get people who are diametrically opposed to each other, to the point that one side considers the other to be the literal reincarnation of The Third Reich....to compromise with each other?

How do you get people to work towards a common goal when their ultimate goals aren't the same thing?
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:29 PM
 
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The impacts of presidential accomplishments typically take time to unfold so time will tell how Trump ranks.


Accomplishments:
NAFTA 2.0
Major tax legislation
Peace deals with Egypt and Israel. This can weigh more heavily over time if it leads to a deal with Palestine.

3 SCOTUS judges

No wars, peacetime president
Trade deals with China



Factors that be judged negatively;
Did not improve the healthcare insurance landscape.
Management of the Covid pandemic.
Increase of domestic violence and hate crimes.
Failed to significantly increase new manufacturing jobs in the USA
Corruption



In 5-10 years will will know the full scale of the Trump presidency, but as is it doesn't look good.
What are you talking about? It's the best it's been since Reagan. That's despite the media and Democrats foment hate and division and blocking Trump and a plague from China.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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one of us is very confused...

Agreed. Among many other transgressions, Obama is a follower of Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, a notorious anti-white and anti-Jewish terrorist group. Even the Southern Poverty Law Center acknowledges that the Nation of Islam promotes anti white/anti Jewish rhetoric. If that's your idea of "unity", I think its pretty obvious which one of us is confused.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Big mistake!
Why is that? Is it because Alex Jones said today that Trump will win in a massive landslide, based on data that has nothing to with polling? However, a lot of people say Jones has little credibility.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:33 PM
 
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Very interesting article on the history of presidents and how the current one ranks at the bottom of the list.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...erican-history

“It seems obvious that Donald Trump is the worst president in my lifetime.

“Donald Trump, if he loses this election, will go down as one of the worst presidents in history because of his failure to unite the country, his abysmal handling of COVID and his xenophobic and racist tweets,” said Douglas Brinkley, a history professor at Rice University. “He’ll be remembered for leaving the country worse off than he found it. He’ll be down at the very bottom of the rankings hanging out with James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce.”

Sadly, Trump seems destined to spend posterity in the company of Buchanan, Pierce and Andrew Johnson, rather than on a mountaintop with Washington and Lincoln.“
Hello...its the LA Times.

I remember seeing an article like this during Obama's presidency. As much as I detested his policies, I doubted then that he was the worst ever.

You believe what you want to though....
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Serious question:

Exactly how do you unite people who are bound and determined NOT to be united?

How do you get people who are diametrically opposed to each other, to the point that one side considers the other to be the literal reincarnation of The Third Reich....to compromise with each other?

How do you get people to work towards a common goal when their ultimate goals aren't the same thing?
LOL I know I don't want to unite with at least 50-60% of the incompatible open borders population. I want separation and independence from them.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Rising wages, more jobs, no new wars, ya, he has to be the worst
250,000 dead. Record breaking unemployment. Record number of small businesses shuttered. Ceding global leadership to Russia and China. Loss of respect Worldwide.

Easily the worst President in my lifetime. Glad he’s gonna lose in two days!
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