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Old 11-02-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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Volobjectitarian,

That is my answer to your questions... ^^^

Have a nice day!

WC
And that answers nothing. During every presidency Fauci has served in, there have been virus outbreaks, pandemics (AIDS, hello?) and government over and under reactions?

Fauci is, by all current descriptions, infallible, so the blame can only be laid at the feet of all those tyrants who held back his epidemiology renown, expertise, insight, brilliance, etc.

OK, so he has been the head of a bureaucracy for a long time. And? I submit that has limited the impact that his individual superiority could have had on all things infectious. Government bureaucracies work at a glacial pace, wait for private sector innovation that they either steal or try to prevent as a way to save face, and generally become pits of inertia where progress, good ideas and forward thinking go to die.

Where would we be, after all, if people like Jobs, Musk, Gates et al were office/cubicle dwellers inside the federal behemoth? Space X does rocket launches better than NASA ever has, in 10% of the time and for 5% of the cost. Fauci could be like Space X against viruses, but his apparently limitless genius and astronomical potential has been pigeon holed and buried inside the monolith of fed.gov.

Why would it be a bad thing for the worst loser in history to free this once_every_milliennia thinker/innovator from his bureaucratic prison, thus letting him loose to conquer and eradicate all viruses as we know them, forever?
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:10 PM
 
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And that answers nothing. During every presidency Fauci has served in, there have been virus outbreaks, pandemics (AIDS, hello?) and government over and under reactions?

Fauci is, by all current descriptions, infallible, so the blame can only be laid at the feet of all those tyrants who held back his epidemiology renown, expertise, insight, brilliance, etc.

OK, so he has been the head of a bureaucracy for a long time. And? I submit that has limited the impact that his individual superiority could have had on all things infectious. Government bureaucracies work at a glacial pace, wait for private sector innovation that they either steal or try to prevent as a way to save face, and generally become pits of inertia where progress, good ideas and forward thinking go to die.

Where would we be, after all, if people like Jobs, Musk, Gates et al were office/cubicle dwellers inside the federal behemoth? Space X does rocket launches better than NASA ever has, in 10% of the time and for 5% of the cost. Fauci could be like Space X against viruses, but his apparently limitless genius and astronomical potential has been pigeon holed and buried inside the monolith of fed.gov.

Why would it be a bad thing for the worst loser in history to free this once_every_milliennia thinker/innovator from his bureaucratic prison, thus letting him loose to conquer and eradicate all viruses as we know them, forever?
Alrighty, then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGcm0AF3Gbc

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Old 11-02-2020, 02:27 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Who's going to stop him? Congress? The Supreme court? He's corrupted them all. Just look at the complete and total obstruction of justice in his impeachment for your proof. He does whatever the hell he wants, and his base loves it. They couldn't care less about separation of powers, it's all Trump, Trump, Trump.
Man, you've really given that fabricated Bad Orange Man character that lives rent free in the heads of his haters quite an amazing amount of power that a US president, in reality, doesn't have. Those claims are wild

The only evidence of corruption in the impeachment process is the utter corruption of the House Democrats in wasting so much time and taxpayer money on phony accusations. Nothingburger is about the kindest way I could describe it.

Must be unpleasant to live with all that hate and misinformation.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:31 PM
 
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Man, you've really given that fabricated Bad Orange Man character that lives rent free in the heads of his haters quite an amazing amount of power that a US president, in reality, doesn't have. Those claims are wild

The only evidence of corruption in the impeachment process is the utter corruption of the House Democrats in wasting so much time and taxpayer money on phony accusations. Nothingburger is about the kindest way I could describe it.

Must be unpleasant to live with all that hate and misinformation.
Trumplicans have selective myopia to Trump's crimes, so I'm not surprised by yours. No one can deny that Trump obstructed justice in his impeachment by not allowing witnesses to testify. No innocent person would have done that, and Congress let him get away with it. No one can deny Trump continues to operate his businesses while president, but actually steers business to it with his office. No one can deny that Trump has violated the Hatch act 13 times. Republicans would have impeached a Democratic president who committed such crimes.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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Trump was just playing up to the crowd. The guy can't joke about anything without the haters freaking out.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:34 PM
 
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Fauci is, by all current descriptions, infallible
No, not true and certainly not something he himself has ever claimed. In fact he claims it when he gets something wrong, as he recently did during his "60 Minutes" interview.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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He's certainly more trusted by sane people and for quantifiable reasons. People who believe in science and want facts naturally want to hear from someone who works with infectious diseases and has been trusted by 6 prior presidents.

Fauci has been asked to testify before congress, was asked to join the CV19 team at the white house, was asked to speak at various daily press briefings, has been asked for his opinions and asked for interviews by every major news station and news-related magazine. He's an expert in his field for good reason -- 40+ years of being on the forefront of infectious disease research and public health. People can count on updated information as it evolves.

CV19 is the hot story this year because it impacts everyone, regardless of beliefs or politics, it is highly contagious, it can cause serious side effects, and infections have led to death for >231K people and counting.
SO why does Fauci get zero blame for the deaths? The 15 days to slow the spread and lockdown was his idea. And it made zero difference in stopping Covid infection rates. We would have been better off to just ignore the thing like Sweden.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:41 PM
 
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SO why does Fauci get zero blame for the deaths? The 15 days to slow the spread and lockdown was his idea. And it made zero difference in stopping Covid infection rates. We would have been better off to just ignore the thing like Sweden.
You don't seem to understand who Fauci is and what his role is.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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Trump was just playing up to the crowd. The guy can't joke about anything without the haters freaking out.
At this event, the crowd chanted "Fire Fauci" and Trump said, "Don't tell anybody,..but a little bit after the election"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehUQl42j4I
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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No, not true and certainly not something he himself has ever claimed. In fact he claims it when he gets something wrong, as he recently did during his "60 Minutes" interview.
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