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I understand not wanting illegals, I do NOT understand the morality in separating children from their parents, then losing that information, and then sending these children back to a country that is not their own.
These are CHILDREN not adults. Any human with any decency would have empathy for them and NOT put them through more trauma.
You realize when American citizens break the law they go to jail/prison and are thus separated from their children. Often these children are sent to foster care or with know relatives. Often they are forever lost in the system. And this occurs when we have birth certificates and know who their parents are, who their relatives are, have records of addresses and school attendance.
Now you have adults crossing the border illegally both the Mexican border and US border with children. No proof of parentage, no birth certificates, no relatives no records or documents. Where is the morality in that. Why would a parent traumatize their child in such a manner then not do everything in their power to find their child.
I would never put my child in that position then blame someone else for it.
There is no excuse, no reason, no anything for deporting children from countries that are not from Mexico. USA has an agreement with Mexico for MEXICAN children who are not with parents, but how can anyone ever be OK with children from another country simply being dumped without any family or support system like this.
How has the USA become so callous, so depraved, so unemphatic that this is official government policy now?
If they got here through Mexico , send them BACK to Mexico. If Mexico has stopped them at their southern border, they would NOT be here.
"How has the USA become so callous, so depraved, so unemphatic that this is official government policy now?" How many are YOU willing take into YOUR house?
"If you are willing to talk the talk, walk the walk", as they say.
These children are dealt with a lot of compassion and empathy. You don’t see that. The media doesn’t report on that. The social workers and others entrusted with the care and supervision of these kids go above and beyond for them much of the time.
Their predicament is a very sad one, but is not one borne on our soil. Our apparent callousness however is borne of decades of total saturation ... something no Canadian can possibly understand.
Compassion and empathy? Frontline employees I'm sure are kind to the children....but the government action of sending them back is not compassionate nor empathetic.
Canadians understand how you got to the saturation point and sending illegals back is not being contested here, it's the way it's being done. You can't just let people live for years in your country where they set up lives and even are allowed to work, and suddenly throw them out. That's just cruel.
It's just leftist BS that information was lost about the parent's of these kids. I ask again, their parents know where they are so why aren't THEY making an effort to claim them? They came through Mexico to get here and back to Mexico they should go.
These so-called kids (many were not pre-teen kids either) were separated from their parents for good reasons in the first place. It's their parents that are responsible for their trauma not us.
You can argue the why's etc, but you can not argue the fact that these are still children, even IF some were pawns in a game they had no choice to play.
You realize when American citizens break the law they go to jail/prison and are thus separated from their children. Often these children are sent to foster care or with know relatives. Often they are forever lost in the system. And this occurs when we have birth certificates and know who their parents are, who their relatives are, have records of addresses and school attendance.
Now you have adults crossing the border illegally both the Mexican border and US border with children. No proof of parentage, no birth certificates, no relatives no records or documents. Where is the morality in that. Why would a parent traumatize their child in such a manner then not do everything in their power to find their child.
I would never put my child in that position then blame someone else for it.
You know the old saying, " two wrongs don't make it right "
Compassion and empathy? Frontline employees I'm sure are kind to the children....but the government action of sending them back is not compassionate nor empathetic.
Canadians understand how you got to the saturation point and sending illegals back is not being contested here, it's the way it's being done. You can't just let people live for years in your country where they set up lives and even are allowed to work, and suddenly throw them out. That's just cruel.
Oh - I guess we aren’t talking about children any longer.
Every person entering the United States illegally runs the risk of being caught and deported some day, whether it happens 5, 10, or 15 years down the road. Just because an illegal alien is lucky, and able to lay low long enough to settle into a comfy life here in the States does not render them above the law. You get caught and you get deported. It’s the law.
Oh - I guess we aren’t talking about children any longer.
Every person entering the United States illegally runs the risk of being caught and deported some day, whether it happens 5, 10, or 15 years down the road. Just because an illegal alien is lucky, and able to lay low long enough to settle into a comfy life here in the States does not render them above the law. You get caught and you get deported. It’s the law.
You have 16 states in which illegals can obtain a driver license.
You have states that have turned a blind eye because of cheap labour. Food prices would sore if California didn't have illegals working the fields, and many other industries.
"With a few exceptions, undocumented workers enjoy all of the legal rights and remedies provided to workers by both federal and California law. (The exceptions to this general rule, mainly in the areas of unemployment insurance and union organizing, are discussed below.)"
You have 16 states in which illegals can obtain a driver license.
You have states that have turned a blind eye because of cheap labour. Food prices would sore if California didn't have illegals working the fields, and many other industries.
"With a few exceptions, undocumented workers enjoy all of the legal rights and remedies provided to workers by both federal and California law. (The exceptions to this general rule, mainly in the areas of unemployment insurance and union organizing, are discussed below.)"
The fact is, yes you have the law, then you have what is practiced.
60 percent of your illegals have been in the US for OVER a decade.
The days of “don’t ask, don’t tell” have come to an end in the United States. We can no longer afford to ignore our problem or the existing laws that could help stop the problem. If you have lived in this country illegally long enough to build a life, a family ... but along the way made no effort to become a citizen, then your luck is up and you must pay the price once you are caught. Compassion cannot replace practicality.
You can argue the why's etc, but you can not argue the fact that these are still children, even IF some were pawns in a game they had no choice to play.
So what? They still don't belong in our country and that's the bottom line! We aren't going to play in the pawn game.
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