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Old 11-05-2020, 11:40 AM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/30/u...ns-mexico.html

There is no excuse, no reason, no anything for deporting children from countries that are not from Mexico. USA has an agreement with Mexico for MEXICAN children who are not with parents, but how can anyone ever be OK with children from another country simply being dumped without any family or support system like this.

How has the USA become so callous, so depraved, so unemphatic that this is official government policy now?
It was evil for someone to bring them here in the first place.
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Old 11-05-2020, 11:43 AM
 
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Where is your proof of that? Besides put the blame on their parents where it belongs not on the U.S. nor Mexico for their predicament.

If kids come here unaccompanied without their real parents then it's not our fault or responsibility either.
I dont have proof of anything. That information about the pandemic causing ICE to send kids back more quickly and rumors of some kids might have gone to Mexico instead of their home country was from the linked article from NYTs and other articles I read on the subject.
The part about starving kids, and trauma and being taken from their parents and dumped in Mexico came from CD posters.

I'm not putting blame on anyone. I don't see anything wrong has been done. Cross the border illegally and there are consequences. I feel for these kids but other than sending them back I dont feel the US has and obligation to them. Yep I put the responsibility of protecting and providing for kids on their parents.
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Old 11-05-2020, 11:49 AM
 
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Let's recap.

The US and Mexico had an agreement. Only Mexican children would be sent back to Mexico.

However, since Trump took office, the USA has become a dishonest broker country, who will not abide by treaties, allies, agreements or trade pacts. That trust has been destroyed, and once again, shown how dishonest it is again.

Why do people support ignoring international agreements both or all parties agreed to? What's the use of even talking to the USA if they will just ignore those agreements anyways?

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-i...mexico-2020-10
The bolded is your opinion.
Yes we have an agreement with Mexico.
children being sent to Mexico is a rumor. Children are being sent to their home country.
Please, the pandemic trumps some weak agreement with Mexico. They should not have allowed those people to cross all the way thru Mexico and over the US border. We have an agreement concerning that as well.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:00 PM
 
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Let's recap.

The US and Mexico had an agreement. Only Mexican children would be sent back to Mexico.
What agreement is that.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:01 PM
 
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The bolded is your opinion.
Yes we have an agreement with Mexico.
children being sent to Mexico is a rumor. Children are being sent to their home country.
Please, the pandemic trumps some weak agreement with Mexico. They should not have allowed those people to cross all the way thru Mexico and over the US border. We have an agreement concerning that as well.
The only countries that seem to trust Trump and the USA are Russia, Turkey, Hungary, Philippines, North Korea and Brazil.

Guess what they have in common?
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Old 11-05-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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The only countries that seem to trust Trump and the USA are Russia, Turkey, Hungary, Philippines, North Korea and Brazil.

Guess what they have in common?
Way to not answer the question or address the topic with any facts.
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Old 11-05-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Yes I remember the days when parents were responsible for their own children, including feeding them. And kids were responsible for their own belongings. If you didnt live up to that responsibility you were just chit out of luck.
Agree. In the bolded case I wasn't allowed to secure my lunch from being stolen but I still had to go without if for any reason even that wasn't my fault I didn't have something.
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Old 11-05-2020, 02:16 PM
 
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Way to not answer the question or address the topic with any facts.
Was I emulating Trump too much?
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Old 11-05-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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Mexico seems like it should be an appropriate place to put an illegal alien. Certainly more appropriate than the United States
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Old 11-05-2020, 02:26 PM
 
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I dont have proof of anything. That information about the pandemic causing ICE to send kids back more quickly and rumors of some kids might have gone to Mexico instead of their home country was from the linked article from NYTs and other articles I read on the subject.
The part about starving kids, and trauma and being taken from their parents and dumped in Mexico came from CD posters.

I'm not putting blame on anyone. I don't see anything wrong has been done. Cross the border illegally and there are consequences. I feel for these kids but other than sending them back I dont feel the US has and obligation to them. Yep I put the responsibility of protecting and providing for kids on their parents.
Those CD posters making claims of starving kids are bogus. No one has been separated from their kids while the parents remain here and their kids dumped in Mexico either.
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