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Old 02-06-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I don't have kids and have never tried hard drugs. I was 40 when I first tried marijuana.

Not to get off topic here but I think anyone who's in jail for any type of marijuana charge should be released. Especially the people that have been sitting in jail for years over it. It will be nationally legal in the coming years
and the police who arrested them should be locked in prison.

same goes for every other drug "crime."

 
Old 02-06-2021, 11:25 AM
 
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I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I don't have kids and have never tried hard drugs. I was 40 when I first tried marijuana.

Not to get off topic here but I think anyone who's in jail for any type of marijuana charge should be released. Especially the people that have been sitting in jail for years over it. It will be nationally legal in the coming years
Think about it, if govt lied about the dangers of Marijuana to the degree they did in the recent past...why would they not lie about the dangers of harder drugs too?
 
Old 02-06-2021, 12:29 PM
 
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Think about it, if govt lied about the dangers of Marijuana to the degree they did in the recent past...why would they not lie about the dangers of harder drugs too?

You definitely can't trust republicans on the topic. Their leaders are still arguing that marijuana is the moral equivalent of child pornography.
 
Old 02-06-2021, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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This means the Idaho state cops are going to be very busy busting drug carriers for a long time to come.
Idaho is an island of prohibition surrounded by more drug-tolerant neighboring states on all sides.

Be careful bringing an ounce of legal weed into Idaho. If caught, your vacation will go all to hell.
 
Old 02-06-2021, 01:13 PM
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Portugal went that route 21 year ago. Nothing but good; less crime, addiction rates went down, police could concentrate on real criminals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
This is a generally positive article, but it doesn't point out only good:

"...Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%[17] It has been proposed[by whom?] that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[22] However, during the same period, the use of heroin and cannabis also increased in Spain and Italy, where drugs for personal use was decriminalised many years earlier than in Portugal [22][23] while the use of Cannabis and heroin decreased in the rest of Western Europe.[24][25]...."
 
Old 02-06-2021, 01:15 PM
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And there are a lot of criminal elements involved in controlling alcohol distribution, just as they are still involved with many casinos.
 
Old 02-06-2021, 01:17 PM
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Think about it, if govt lied about the dangers of Marijuana to the degree they did in the recent past...why would they not lie about the dangers of harder drugs too?
Aren't you on other threads calling for "believing the experts" and attacking those who question them?
 
Old 02-06-2021, 01:26 PM
 
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This means the Idaho state cops are going to be very busy busting drug carriers for a long time to come.
Idaho is an island of prohibition surrounded by more drug-tolerant neighboring states on all sides.

Be careful bringing an ounce of legal weed into Idaho. If caught, your vacation will go all to hell.

No doubt. Kansas is a close runner up to Idaho I think.
 
Old 02-06-2021, 02:33 PM
 
Location: NJ
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
This is a generally positive article, but it doesn't point out only good:

"...Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%[17] It has been proposed[by whom?] that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[22] However, during the same period, the use of heroin and cannabis also increased in Spain and Italy, where drugs for personal use was decriminalised many years earlier than in Portugal [22][23] while the use of Cannabis and heroin decreased in the rest of Western Europe.[24][25]...."
it doesnt even matter what the result is. the simple fact that we all have the natural right to consume anything we want is undeniable. that doesnt come with a guarantee of only positive outcomes for everyone involved.

what we need is protection from police who enforce any drug law. all these police need to be dealt with for their crimes of kidnapping people and stealing their drugs (and other things). we wont have peace until we have locked up the cops.
 
Old 02-06-2021, 03:59 PM
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it doesnt even matter what the result is. the simple fact that we all have the natural right to consume anything we want is undeniable. that doesnt come with a guarantee of only positive outcomes for everyone involved.

what we need is protection from police who enforce any drug law. all these police need to be dealt with for their crimes of kidnapping people and stealing their drugs (and other things). we wont have peace until we have locked up the cops.
Do we have the right to refuse you medical care if drug use causes the need for it?

Should we just execute you if you commit a crime to pay for your drug use?

Should we just execute you if you sell drugs to minors?
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