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View Poll Results: Do you support an investigation of voter fraud in the five contested states?
Yes- I'm republican 18 90.00%
No- I'm republican 0 0%
Yes- I'm democrat 2 10.00%
No- I'm democrat 0 0%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-05-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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What is happening is pitiful. Why can't we count ballots? California was done fast so what is going on in these other much smaller states?

It sure is sketchy and the longer it goes the more suspicions there will be.
For years, some states have been working on or have accomplished universal mail-in voting, so the rules that go with it are established and people are familiar with it. So on those states, the count can go smoothly. But some states were unprepared for the change. One accommodation that needs to be made is when the counting can start. If a state has a rule that counting can't start until the polls are closed, they are letting all those received mail in ballots just sit there, wasting lots of time. In CA, the mail in ballots are certified and sorted by precinct as they come in. They are arranged in the counting machine, so on the morning of election day, they only have to hit the on switch. So naturally, their count is received much faster. States need to adjust their laws, and some haven't. There is nothing illegitimate about it, it is just delay caused by administrative processes not keeping up.
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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All we need to do is to reverse the situation. If the Dems thought Trump was cheating there would be riots on the streets and lets not forget the Russians interfering !! Isn't it odd with Biden in the lead that we haven't heard one peep about Russians? Maybe we should be looking to China? If Biden wins can the Republicans launch a 3 year investigation into China China China !

What is happening is pitiful. Why can't we count ballots? California was done fast so what is going on in these other much smaller states?

It sure is sketchy and the longer it goes the more suspicions there will be.

It is hard to imagine that fraud is not happening before our eyes and Trump has the Right to demand an investigation.

If Biden wins the country will accept.
If Trump wins half of the country will be tearing itself apart.

If Trump does pull it off the Dem elected like Pelosi needs to unite. The Democrats have behaved like spoiled brats these past 4 years. It is them that have divided us and they need to unite us.

Hate to burst your bubble, but CA isn't actually done, I'd wager. The margin is just so big, it doesn't matter.

The same way they called some of the states by 8-9pm Eastern on election day.
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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Poll needs an independent option. They should investigate for fraud so we can move on and get over this nonsense.
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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Of course not there are always a lot of people who don't believe anything that does not fit their narrative. Really if the counts come thru and Trump ends up winning the Dems will be screaming bloody murder just as much as the Repubs will be if Biden wins. Regardless of what any investigation shows.

And who is going to investigate it ? Corrupt dems or deep state like the FBI investigating Hillary or the bogus Russian Trump collusion they fabricated ? The dems have so bastardized they system that they do not deserve to be trusted.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:06 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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And you, having conducted several statewide and national investigations of voter fraud, obviously know this for sure.

What happened in WI and MI is statistically impossible. It would be like winning the lottery, being bitten by a shark, and hit with an asteroid all on the same day.

I'm sure you are not aware of this, but there is a very nice mathematical analysis that is used to detect crimes and fraud that is implemented on a daily basis. Benford's law is an interesting analysis that can detect fraud, plagiarism, and criminal activity.

You should read up on the mathematical analysis of fraud, particularly benford's law.
And you did this mathematical analysis and have the hard proof to back up your claims?

Lol...please. Quit playing.
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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No election is "done" yet. Results aren't official until the states say they are. That might not be for another 2 weeks. That's not fraud; it's process. Happens every year. I swear many of you have never voted before ...

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What happened in WI and MI is statistically impossible. It would be like winning the lottery, being bitten by a shark, and hit with an asteroid all on the same day.
Trump has spent the last eight months railing about mail voting and casting doubt on the legitimacy of the vote. He's been telling his drooling hordes to vote in person - after all, the pandemic is a hoax. And now he wonders why so many mail ballots are for his opponent? He's not very bright, is he?
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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No election is "done" yet. Results aren't official until the states say they are. That might not be for another 2 weeks. That's not fraud; it's process. Happens every year. I swear many of you have never voted before ...


Trump has spent the last eight months railing about mail voting and casting doubt on the legitimacy of the vote. He's been telling his drooling hordes to vote in person - after all, the pandemic is a hoax. And now he wonders why so many mail ballots are for his opponent? He's not very bright, is he?
IF the election was legitimate, an investigation should prove this (or not).

The dems challenged the election in FL in Bush vs Gore, so the dems have also challenged a fairly recent election.

EVERYONE should want to know whether the election was legit, or not. Fair elections are the cornerstone of the republic.

So...…………………….. why are you afraid of a recount/investigation if the vote was legit?
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Old 11-05-2020, 10:12 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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No election is "done" yet. Results aren't official until the states say they are. That might not be for another 2 weeks. That's not fraud; it's process. Happens every year. I swear many of you have never voted before ...


Trump has spent the last eight months railing about mail voting and casting doubt on the legitimacy of the vote. He's been telling his drooling hordes to vote in person - after all, the pandemic is a hoax. And now he wonders why so many mail ballots are for his opponent? He's not very bright, is he?
WI isn't scheduled to certify their election until December 1st. The Trump campaign can have their recount then, if they still want it (and want to pay for it).
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Old 11-05-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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IF the election was legitimate, an investigation should prove this (or not)...

Guilty until proven innocent, eh, comrade?
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