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Old 11-05-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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Dems are obviously cheating but Biden still has a chance.

 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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there must be a lot of folks who weren't of voting age in 2000 and FL's hanging chads.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I feel like if you have to contest it this hard, then you were probably not going to win anyway.

You don't wanna win that way.

It still is amazing. Trump beat 2016 trump and Biden beat 2016 Hilary. The numbers were through the roof on turn out. Good Job , America!
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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If corona hadn't happened Trump would have won by a lot.

Okay, so put another way: If Trump wasn't an incompetent, lying buffoon, responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths that could have been prevented, Trump would have one by a lot. Yeah, stick with that story...
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:54 AM
 
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You know, cus your loyal and have great faith in Team Trump?

It will make for epic boasting later.
It remains to be seen.

It certainly appears as though fraud occurred in MI, WI, PA, and AZ. Apparently, given the legal challenges, there will be a formal investigation of this.

It seems as though fraud HAS happened, as the statistical probability of what has happened is about ZERO. However, we really need to see what the examination of the ballots in question reveals. If there was fraud, it will be discovered in the process.

IF widespread fraud is proven, then yes- the legal process and The Supreme Court will nullify those fraudulent ballots.

NO ONE can say definitively whether there was fraud or not, as we do not have the evidence before us. I am sure that if there was fraud, the interested parties will discover it.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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You know, cus your loyal and have great faith in Team Trump?

It will make for epic boasting later.
You don't have to look far for the pre-election claims that "Trump will win all his 2016 states, plus MN, VA and... whatever I feel like saying. NY, too! Why not?"

There's a treasure trove of epic boasting to feast on. Trump might still pull this off, depending how GA, PA, AZ and NV work out. But the odds aren't looking good. It isn't a good look when you have to win by stopping the count. Is it surprising that a county that can go 80/20 for a Democrat is going... 80/20 for a Democrat?

If anything, Biden is UNDERperforming in Philadelphia vs Clinton. Clinton won county 83/17 or so.

Since urban Pennsylvanians are voting against Trump, I guess that means fraud!
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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I feel like if you have to contest it this hard, then you were probably not going to win anyway.

You don't wanna win that way.

It still is amazing. Trump beat 2016 trump and Biden beat 2016 Hilary. The numbers were through the roof on turn out. Good Job , America!
"Contest it"?

It is simply determining whether illegal voter fraud happened or not. EVERY CITIZEN, regardless of party, should want to know whether the election process was legitimate or not. One would have to be a complete fool not to challenge the votes in WI, MI, PA and AZ, given the very odd "irregularities".

Why?

1. If fraud happened, it is a crime.
2. Fraud in elections erodes the faith of citizens in the government and the election process
3. If fraud happened, each party in the future will commit fraud again if it is unpunished
4. If fraud happened, it was probably aided by enemies of the US (inside and out) that needs to be ferreted out.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:58 AM
 
Location: In the outlet by the lightswitch
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Not a Trump supporter, I didn't even vote for him, but of course he still has a chance. That's why the race isn't called yet. It's not over until the count is over. That's why I think it's funny so many Trump supporters want the counts to stop. If they stop now, he loses. Of course, they are just talking about stopping the count in states where Trump is losing ground, not states where he's gaining ground.

And while I just want this all to be over with, Trump has a right to a recount in Wisconsin, so he should take that right and request it. Although last presidential election there was a recount in that state and things barely changed. I think they probably do a good job with their vote counts there. I am not so sure about his lawsuits to stop legal counting in places like Pennsylvania though. I mean, it's the law that they have to count until Friday and that was already backed by the state Supreme Court. But anyone can sue for anything and he doesn't have anything to lose by trying.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:59 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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He's got to sweep the board at this point to win. Not sure if he's going to be able to pull it off.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 09:01 AM
 
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Dems are obviously cheating but Biden still has a chance.
Have any evidence to back it up?

It might exist in Trump's investigation into 2016 election fraud. Here's an excerpt for you:

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Originally Posted by Trump's Evidence of Voter Fraud in 2016 Election
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