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Everyone knows politicians try to pull strings to work their way, but usually it's a little difficult to catch them at it and see the clear partisan motive.
For example, Gov Abbott in Texas declared that voters and poll workers wouldn't be required to wear masks, "because he didn't want voters turned away at the polls just because they hadn't brought a mask". Oh please, COME ON. Have a box of masks at the entrance.
Everyone knew it was because he wanted the polling places to feel unsafe for democrats.
But anyway, he was savvy enough to attempt to hide his partisan behavior.
This business of Trump's going after states where he's projected to LOSE, but ignoring states where he's projected to WIN, just makes him look bizarre.
Kind of like the Florida recount with gore and Ohio with Kerry.
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Kind of like the Florida recount with gore and Ohio with Kerry.
As I recall the Florida recount, Katherine Harris (a republican, in charge of Florida elections) called a halt to the counting of ballots at a time when Bush was ahead, paving the way for his win. Harris, for her loyalty and legal hat trick in Bush's favor, expected payback from Bush in the form of an appointment to a plum position.
Not so fast, Ms. Harris. She was damaged goods, and Bush distanced himself from her. Nobody likes the optics of openly, publicly rigging the election for your team.
For the record, I voted for all the Bushes, all the times they ran and think they both were good presidents.
But I don't think, all in, Bush would likely have won Florida without Harris being there to run interference.
(Text from GW to Al Gore, Sept. 12, 2001: "Hey Al. The votes were recounted in Florida. You won.)
Then you got Trump demanding Votes stop being counted in States that he is up but he demands counting in states that he is down like AZ, Nevada, etc.
This is insane despot stuff.
While Levin is correct, this would be a disastrous move for our country. Changing the game after the fact is (absent actual evidence of fraud ad illegality) not an appropriate use of this power by the legislature. I see under no circumstance where any legislature would make sure a move.
And it would come back to bite whoever did it in the behind. Can you imagine if PA had a Dem legislature in 2016 and they decided to ignore the will of PA voters and give their EC votes to Hillary?
This was incredibly irresponsible of Mark Levin, who I generally like and appreciate.
Everyone knows politicians try to pull strings to work their way, but usually it's a little difficult to catch them at it and see the clear partisan motive.
For example, Gov Abbott in Texas declared that voters and poll workers wouldn't be required to wear masks, "because he didn't want voters turned away at the polls just because they hadn't brought a mask". Oh please, COME ON. Have a box of masks at the entrance.
Everyone knew it was because he wanted the polling places to feel unsafe for democrats.
But anyway, he was savvy enough to attempt to hide his partisan behavior.
This business of Trump's going after states where he's projected to LOSE, but ignoring states where he's projected to WIN, just makes him look bizarre.
Don't forget limiting mail ballot drop-off boxes to ONE per COUNTY -- whether the county population was 200 or 4 million -- for "ballot security".
Oh, and in Harris County - GOP going to court to stop the drive-in voting tents. Did only Democrats enjoy the convenience and safety? (For those not in TX -- the court upheld the drive-in option, but because of legalese language the county clerk reduced the drive-ups to only one location on Election Day itself, as it was a brick-and-mortar building, not a temporary tent. But the votes from the 10 or so tents during early-voting were allowed to be counted.)
"It's not what you don't know that's harmful, it's what you think you know but you're wrong that does the most damage."
I don't think there's any way to convince republicans that there isn't cheating - or at least, not widespread heating, going on.
In every election I'm sure there are a few things that are done, not having ballots, a few boxes of ballots sneaking off, etc.
But it seems republicans really and truly believe that there has been widespread cheating on the part of the democrats, and that's caused Trump to likely lose.
And when you've got people like Rush Limbaugh stoking these flames, I don't know what can be done here.
Where do we go from here?
If we're not all basically looking at the same set of facts to make decisions and form opinions, we're sunk. We can't move forward with a world of "right truth" and "left truth".
And the truth is, if Trump loses he'll have lose fair and square.
The simple answer would be "You think we're cheating? Show up at 9 am Nov 3rd and you can monitor us."
As I recall the Florida recount, Katherine Harris (a republican, in charge of Florida elections) called a halt to the counting of ballots at a time when Bush was ahead, paving the way for his win. Harris, for her loyalty and legal hat trick in Bush's favor, expected payback from Bush in the form of an appointment to a plum position.
Not so fast, Ms. Harris. She was damaged goods, and Bush distanced himself from her. Nobody likes the optics of openly, publicly rigging the election for your team.
For the record, I voted for all the Bushes, all the times they ran and think they both were good presidents.
But I don't think, all in, Bush would likely have won Florida without Harris being there to run interference.
(Text from GW to Al Gore, Sept. 12, 2001: "Hey Al. The votes were recounted in Florida. You won.)
No. The ballots were all counted. The only stopping of ballots was during the recount, and this was by the US Supreme Court (the Florida Supreme Court had already paved the way for the recount to continue). Of course, Al Gore only wanted certain, Democrat-leaning counties to be recounted, so there's that, too.
Ultimately, independent media organizations conducted their own recount using the standard authorized by the FL Supreme Court and concluded that Bush still would have won had the recount continued.
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No. The ballots were all counted. The only stopping of ballots was during the recount, and this was by the US Supreme Court (the Florida Supreme Court had already paved the way for the recount to continue). Of course, Al Gore only wanted certain, Democrat-leaning counties to be recounted, so there's that, too.
Ultimately, independent media organizations conducted their own recount using the standard authorized by the FL Supreme Court and concluded that Bush still would have won had the recount continued.
Right. Her stopping the counting of the ballots wasn't the final step of the florida election process.
But the fact that she used her power to stop counting ballots, when it would be beneficial to Bush, was blatantly partisan and it didn't pay off for her.
Either way, the losing party will not accept the results of this election. They will feel that they have been ripped off by the other party. The nation will be divided for 4 years till election 2024.
DNC operatives who are not involved in the counting process could have sneaked in fake Biden votes without other people knowing. It's called plausible deniability.
Innocent mistakes can happen. My brother who died years ago still get stuff in the mail from the DMV. My mother who died two years ago still get mail from the government. Shady relatives or outsiders can take advantage of these situations.
Fishy stuff happened in this election. The democrats fought hard for mail-in ballots. Now it's clear why.
Isn’t it more fascist to not allow observers during counting? Isn’t fascist to have more votes then legal voters? Can you tell me if it was the other way around you wouldn’t want the same? Don’t say you wouldn’t because of the last elections your side lost, you cried fowl
Oh dear. "Fowl."
1. Observers are in place
2. In no place are there more votes than registered voters.
Where are you getting your fake news from?
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