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Old 11-06-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones View Post
The Democrats appear to be getting away with it. I've never seen anything like this before, no one will ever trust US elections again.

Mysterious sudden jumps in overnight vote totals 3 days later, states like North Carolina & Florida not being called for Trump while they jump on Arizona for Biden. Postmarks altered, votes made from non-residents, authorized observers barred from entering polling places, so many shenanigans

This is the worst possible outcome for confidence in the system, no one will ever trust US elections again
So shady.... all that missing evidence though... hmm...

Sounds like you’re just a poor loser.

 
Old 11-06-2020, 07:54 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by SGrey View Post
Unsurprisingly, there are two distinct groups watching the results come in: Those who got their news solely from Trump and his supporting media and everyone else. Or, those who heard for months leading up to the election that we'd likely be in for a long wait before we had results.
That's a great story except honest minded people have been warning for months that unsolicited mass scale mail-in ballots had no chain of custody security and was subject to widespread fraud. It's not possible to prove that the ballots were properly cast because of this, and now that we see all these tens of thousands of votes being found in the middle of the night there is no way on this green Earth that you will ever be able to convince tens and tens of millions of Americans that this was a fair and proper election
 
Old 11-06-2020, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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They are coming to take Trump out now.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TFx8D3Vvzaw
 
Old 11-06-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
The obvious widespread fraud in this election perpetrated by the democrats was blindly executed in their zeal to remove Trump from office.

Unfortunately, democrats never think ahead and consider the consequences of their actions. They are like poor chess players- only reacting to the immediate move.

If the fraud is allowed to stand, it is the end of the republic; fair elections is the cornerstone of our system and without them, we are ruled by oligarchs.

In subsequent elections, each party will now prepare millions of fake votes and deploy them in areas where needed to "win" the election. The number of fake votes will probably exceed the number of real votes, as each party will be trying to guess the number they need to win. We may have a situation in which there are 4-5X as many votes cast as there are living citizens in the US.

I know the dems hate Trump. But a coup in this fashion destroys the election process going forward. Even rational dems (if there are any left) should support stopping this fraud and encourage the legislatures in those states to gain control of the election. If this situation is not remedied, this is the end of the US. Without fair elections, the nation is done, courtesy of criminal democrats.

Friday morning 11.06.2020: Despite days of bogus claims of massive voter fraud and kooky election conspiracies, not a shred of evidence has been produced by the corrupt and whiny POTUS.

NOT. A. SHRED.

You are promoting dangerous lies. Why are you trying to undermine our democratic process?
You are supporting autocracy and a lying demagogue and actively spreading his falsehoods that are extremely harmful to these United States of America. How do people become so brainwashed that the man is more important than the office?

Trump is pulling out a playbook perfected by Russian President Vladimir Putin and other authoritarians. It relies on sowing doubt about the institutions of law and government, spreading misinformation or outright lies that serve a leader’s political ends, and relying on a team of loyal supporters to believe what they are told.

Trump’s attempts to brand our legal election practices as fraud and to use the courts to intervene in the counting of votes are just the latest examples of what has long been his obvious and evil contempt of our democratic system.

Last night the President of the United States declared that the national election was illegitimate and he will not accept the results. More than an authoritarian this is a dictator's move. He is WRONG. He is DANGEROUS. This is his last move to DESTROY the USA.

With dead seriousness it is clear and easy to say that Trump is trying to destroy our nation in order to cling to power. We have just entered the biggest test of our democracy in our lifetimes.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 07:56 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I suppose all the polls by the mainstream media showing Biden blowouts everywhere were just another honest mistake, eh?
It's a blue wave! Didn't you know?

Biden's internal polling showed otherwise, and the Democrats knew this. That's why it was so important to have insecure mail in ballots in their back pocket
 
Old 11-06-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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I have never voted in any presidential election. I am an outside observer in that regard, and when I see big leads in many democrat run states evaporate after election day, it looks very corrupt and swampy to me.

So many times when corruption is brought to the surface, their standard line is;" nothing to see here". If corruption wins their day, those words will be prophetically against them. While seeking to own it all, their actions show that they haven't owned up to anything, and the rotting corruption continues. When corruption runs it's course and it all rots away, in it's end there is "nothing to see here".

If Joe is declared president by the media, as they pat themselves on the back. They have failed to see the bigger picture.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 08:00 AM
 
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What was the Trump supporter moniker for the past 4 years? “Trump won get over it”

I think it’s time to heed their own words.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 08:01 AM
 
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Don't sweat it. Evidence is being gathered and there is a lot of it. The courts will decide whether this evidence the Trump team presents to them is valid or not. At our level, we can't see the full picture. But the courts will be able to. We can't stop this legal process but we can watch and see what happens. We will have one president or the other when this process completes.
 
Old 11-06-2020, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by SkyDog77 View Post
Claim: Rumors began to spread on social media Wednesday that voters in Arizona who used Sharpie pens on their ballots wouldn't have their votes counted. That confusion prompted state officials, election monitors and a top Trump administration official to push back on "#SharpieGate" rumors.

Result: Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich said Thursday the use of Sharpie pens on election ballots "did not result in disenfranchisement."

"Based on correspondence and conversations with Maricopa County officials, we are now confident that the use of Sharpie markers did not result in disenfranchisement for Arizona voters. We appreciate the county’s prompt insight and assurances to address public concerns," Brnovich tweeted.
It clearly states on ballots that one must mark within the oval and that stray marks can make it invalid. And, a sharpie "bleeds". Of course election officials are going to deny any fraud was going on.

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Except there are lawsuits claiming there are irregularities. laws not being followed, unfair process etc.
As there should be. Far too many questions, and simply asking election officials if the people working under them and cheating, and them saying "no", is certainly not an investigation.

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Couple things here....

1. Yes, they are all members of the deep state (and likely pedophiles)

2. Don’t you know that when you cheat on a test, you have to miss a few questions so that nobody will know that you cheated.

Or something like that.
1. "Pedophiles", are we going to talk about Biden now?
2. Actually, many of us are versed on cheating as we believe it is wrong to cheat, but I see you can tell us all about it.

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You act like voter fraud has never been proven before. There have even been convictions for it. It's not easy to catch and prove but it still happens.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=PA
And, I'm betting they'll be more, and I can't believe that anyone when asked would say "Yes, we committed voter fraud."

https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-t...on-has-photos/

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/politi...il-in-ballots/

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ging-thousands


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1LWcyYemzI

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I don't know how wide scale it is. First you claim it is non existent and now the claim is it not on any wide scale.
It isn't non existent, and everyone knows that, yet some will deny the truth, basically the same that would cheat and steal.

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Originally Posted by toodie View Post
China Joe will always have a tarnished and diminished reputation and legacy after this suspiciously fraudulent process.
Well, Biden really doesn't have a decent reputation in the first place, which is why the only way he could win would have been through cheating.

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Originally Posted by SkyDog77 View Post
Another one....

Claim: Trump campaign claims that there were irregularities in the Wisconsin voting process, stating that ballots are being found in dark corners or locked doors.

Result: Wisconsin election officials are rejecting complaints from the Trump campaign that there were irregularities in the voting process, reassuring voters that there are "no dark corners or locked doors in elections" and the state's voting process was transparent
So, you expected Wisconsin election officials to say their were irregularities? That isn't how it works.

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Originally Posted by DaveinMtAiry View Post
Counting every legally cast vote isn't a fraud, it's how to run an election. They have their people at polls watching every move like hawks and didn't find a thing, each claim has been debunked.

Meanwhile Trump's appointed Post Master General is being called before the very judge who ordered him to have every ballot processed and swept to explain why he purposely made sure that did not happen. THAT'S where the corruption is, not in some fraud fairy tale told to you by a desperate dying man.
Well, the Dems were doing the "math", thus not counting mail-in ballots, which can be tampered with until they knew how many they needed. Trump was at 95%, voting stopped for several hours, and then "magically" Biden was ahead.

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Originally Posted by Icy Tea View Post
Let the courts settle it, it certainly looks like there has been massive ballot fraud in several contested states.
Yes, it has to be the courts. Simply inquiring with election officials in the contested states is a joke!

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Originally Posted by moneill View Post
Why? Because Trump is losing them?
No, because there are questions, serious and justified questions. And, let's face it, Biden was a loser when the election started.

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Originally Posted by BoSox 15 View Post
Specifically, what is the fraud?

Keep in mind this is like saying someone should "go to jail for a crime". Yes, of course, but what specific crime is worthy of jail time?

You can't just keep saying fraud fraud fraud but never actually say what the fraud is.

If you're waiting for Trump to tell you via twitter, then say so. Otherwise you just make yourself look foolish.
Election Fraud: https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u...er-fraud-.html This is an excellent article covering all facets of election fraud.

"Voter fraud is a felony offense that may carry a penalty of time in prison."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/20511

"shall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
 
Old 11-06-2020, 08:04 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I missed your posts were you said the Democrats 3 year long investigation into "Russian collusion" had no basis whatsoever. Is that now your position?
No, it's not. Are you so deluded that you think there was "no basis" for investigating the Trump campaign's connections to Russia?
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