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Sooo...you think Italy - Spain - France - UK - the cases in the spring just finally...faded on their own? The lockdowns had nothing to do with that?
There's a bit of a misunderstanding here: No one - anywhere - EVER - said lockdowns will stop it forever and ever. Nope. The plan was simply to slow it down long enough for medical resources to catch up. Once that happened, the decision was made to just kinda...let it take its course, although with measures (masks, distance, etc) suggested - knowing full well lots of folks wouldn't follow those guidelines, but most would. So it was kept at bay for a while. But it was always THERE - and now it's back. Why would it NOT be back? Did you think some magical virus mutation occurred in the meantime? No.
It's back, just like before. There are measures in place, so it's not as rapid as before. But it could be worse - or it could be better. If you want it better- then here come the lockdowns.
Meantime - 1 in 10 obituaries is COVID. 1 in 10 is NOT suicide or drug abuse.
Sooo...you think Italy - Spain - France - UK - the cases in the spring just finally...faded on their own? The lockdowns had nothing to do with that?
There's a bit of a misunderstanding here: No one - anywhere - EVER - said lockdowns will stop it forever and ever. Nope. The plan was simply to slow it down long enough for medical resources to catch up. Once that happened, the decision was made to just kinda...let it take its course, although with measures (masks, distance, etc) suggested - knowing full well lots of folks wouldn't follow those guidelines, but most would. So it was kept at bay for a while. But it was always THERE - and now it's back. Why would it NOT be back? Did you think some magical virus mutation occurred in the meantime? No.
It's back, just like before. There are measures in place, so it's not as rapid as before. But it could be worse - or it could be better. If you want it better- then here come the lockdowns.
Meantime - 1 in 10 obituaries is COVID. 1 in 10 is NOT suicide or drug abuse.
Actually before you post in a public forum, you need to get your facts together instead of making them up to suit your agenda.
Italy has a death rate from Covid just under the US
Spain's death rate is much higher than the US, 2nd highest in the world
France is doing better than the US
The UK's death rate, like Spain is much higher than the US
The US is doing better that 10 of the developed countries in the world. No one really knows what is happening in China, Russia, Iran, or North Korea.
This is all based upon death rates per million of population. Number of cases means nothing and is a factor of the number of tests given.
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I said earlier in this thread that so far, deaths didn't seem to be following "cases", and that maybe the protocol in the medical community for treating those infected had improved so much that we were not going to experience the rate of death we had seen earlier in the spring.
Not so anymore. We are headed STRAIGHT UP with deaths, following our surge in cases a few weeks ago. For those who don't follow worldometers, the cases/deaths graph looks like it jumps up and down every day, because of reporting anomalies. Typically, data reports aren't turned in on weekends, so those look like low cases/death days, but that makes no sense. Tuesday is the data dump day when you can expect to see the highest peak of each, cases and deaths. You could expect to see low reporting on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
But no. The reporting yesterday was as high as it's been all week, meaning we are set for skyrocketing numbers this week.
We're in the fire. There's no way to get through it but keep walking through the fire. I believe we should just keep walking, masked and distanced, but not shut down. Shutting down serves the purpose it intended - stringing out the contagion for a longer period of time so we have the medical capacity to deal with the very ill. Shutting down was never intended to halt contagion.
Geez - finally a thread about Covid which has been forgotten along with the riots. Let Covid run it's course just as the flu does every year - had we done this in the beginning with those susceptible taking precautions - we'd be over this for the most part.
As much as people like, need, whatever to point a finger at someone...it is just ignorant. Covid is here, and would have been here regardless of whom was in office. Shut downs will just make things worse. Covid is here and we have to learn to live with it. Protect the vulnerable, strengthen ones immune system, exercise, social distance, sanitize and mask up when needed. Even then, the majority of us will eventually get it.
My wife and I have followed all the protocols since March. We are like hermits, we wear our masks, etc. Even with all that, my wife tested positive yesterday. Are we blaming anyone ? Nope.
Thank you! But when Biden becomes President then the left will claim its ok. Biden stopped the virus lol
Considering outcomes are far better than they were in March and April and the consequences of doing more damage to the economy, I don't support shut downs.
Masking in all enclosed places and vulnerable populations staying home are the pragmatic things to do. We can't shut the entire country down hoping a vaccine arrives in 6 months. The economic damage and mental health damage are as serious concerns as the virus.
This is what we need to do. This is the sensible approach. People are emotionally exhausted from COVID and the election. We need to decide that we are all in this together and protect the most vulnerable and they need to be cautious in public. Let’s win this war.
This is what we need to do. This is the sensible approach. People are emotionally exhausted from COVID and the election. We need to decide that we are all in this together and protect the most vulnerable and they need to be cautious in public. Let’s win this war.
The vulnerable are already doing this the rest need to live!
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