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Old 11-06-2020, 03:13 PM
 
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There's nothing as bad as the Democrats 2000 NC gerrymander except maybe the Texas Democrats 1990 gerrymander.
The Democrats never took much notice of the gerrymandering going on until the Republicans swept control of most state legislatures in 2010, which was Obama's first midterm election. And even then, they only seemed to notice when the Republicans do it, even though the Democrats continue to do it in the states that they control to this very day.
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Old 11-08-2020, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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The Democrats never took much notice of the gerrymandering going on until the Republicans swept control of most state legislatures in 2010, which was Obama's first midterm election. And even then, they only seemed to notice when the Republicans do it, even though the Democrats continue to do it in the states that they control to this very day.
Exactly right, which is why I dismiss cries for redistricting reform as they are almost always made at the expense of the GOP and to the benefit of Democrats.

Case in point: Maryland and Illinois have redistricted the GOP to hell, yet you'll only hear Democrats and the media crying about redistricting in Republican states.

Heck, Virginia Democrats were all for redistricting reforms when they were fighting gerrymandered districts to get into the state legislative majority. They ran on proposing a constitutional amendment, almost to immediately walk back talk of putting such an amendment on the ballot once they did seize the majority. At the end of the day, only a handful of Democrats in the Virginia House of Delegates supported placing the amendment on the ballot. And, if not for strong GOP support, the issue would have never been placed on the ballot and ultimately passed by voters.

https://wamu.org/story/20/10/09/demo...icting-reform/

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020...ent-to-voters/

So, again, the conversation many have on redistricting reform isn't truly about reform, but reform only in a manner that helps Democrats at the expense of Republicans.
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Old 11-08-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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Gerrymandering works because both parties claim territory of some slice of voters, instead of working for the common interests of all citizens.
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Old 11-08-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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We are hoping the gerrymander will be broken in Wisconsin now that we have a democratic governor.

Another issue related to it is where the state has been growing. The rural areas continue to see a decline. Milwaukee has been holding its own. The fastest growing area is Dane County. The population has increased about 60k, an increase of 12%, since 2010.
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Old 11-08-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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We are hoping the gerrymander will be broken in Wisconsin now that we have a democratic governor.

Another issue related to it is where the state has been growing. The rural areas continue to see a decline. Milwaukee has been holding its own. The fastest growing area is Dane County. The population has increased about 60k, an increase of 12%, since 2010.
Conservatives still have a majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which will go with the maps drawn by the GOP legislature as a starting point when the legislature and the governor cannot come to an agreement on maps. All of this is to say that I wouldn't expect much change coming out of Wisconsin.
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