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I live on the planet where if a person claims that something happened (in this case, voter fraud), and it is not readily apparent that the accusation is true (hence the election officials, state secretaries of state, and the accuser's own Department of Homeland Security denying any widespread voter fraud) then the accuser must proffer actual evidence. If the accuser has no evidence to put forth, then the accusations are rendered "debunked".
So far, zero evidence put forth. And unfortunately misinformation and outright lies put forth which the accuser's supporters consume with relish. There was no widespread fraud. All the conspiracy stories that allege the election was stolen are FALSE.
There's been a vast amount of evidence of fraud all over. You just choose to ignore it.
Now there hasn't been evidence yet of a material amount of fraud, just suspicions.
The ones who say there is no fraud think it's like a TV show where everything gets resolved in one hour. So IRL when things don't happen that way, they say it's all a lie.
The ones who say there is no widespread fraud think that it's been almost two weeks, and still no evidence. None of the "supposed" evidence is actually factual. Lots of misinformation put forth, lots of surmise, no facts. So, when no evidence is put forth, they actually say that there is no evidence. All the accusers keep saying is, "wait.....wait for it.....wait.....wait for it.......wait.........wait for it...........wait.........wait for it.........wait............wait for it...............wait..........wait for it...........wait........wait for it........."
There's been a vast amount of evidence of fraud all over. You just choose to ignore it.
Now there hasn't been evidence yet of a material amount of fraud, just suspicions.
I'm not ignoring anything. I am pointing out that if there hasn't been evidence yet of a material amount of fraud, after two weeks, with the United States Department of Homeland Security stating that this election was not impacted by fraud, what exactly are you fraudsters hoping for? The election is not going to be voided. Vote recounts aren't going to change the outcome of this election. Lawsuits aren't going to change the outcome of this election.
i think you're going to be disappointed. so far all i've heard powell do is claim what the voting machine software could do, not any direct evidence of what it did do in the 2020 election . speculation of what it could do is not going to go well in court. i doubt her performance in court will match that in the interviews.
OK, so if the voting machine software *could* do what's being claimed, I'm glad those problems are being exposed, even if the results of this particular election cycle remain unchanged. And we then need to get better systems in place before the next go-round of elections.
Obviously honest elections dont matter to you lefties as long as your side wins...why am I not surprised!
It was an honest election.
An election security team led by a senior Department of Homeland Security official stressed in a Nov. 12 press release that the 2020 general election "was the most secure in American history." https://fcw.com/articles/2020/11/12/...-election.aspx
An election security team led by a senior Department of Homeland Security official stressed in a Nov. 12 press release that the 2020 general election "was the most secure in American history." https://fcw.com/articles/2020/11/12/...-election.aspx
That only has to do with the claim that the software was rigged. Fact is, we know it did happen in at least one county in Michigan.
And none of that has anything to do with fraud with mail-in ballots, creating fake votes.
The systems on controlling those were the weakest in history.
The only chance they have of over turning the election results is by proving systemic electoral fraud, however the time frame in which to do this is limited.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 11-16-2020 at 09:26 AM..
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