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Old 11-17-2020, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/statu...32594176249858

Rudy now says that the case is not about fraud after claiming it was about fraud. Seems that the judge had to remind him that he would need to meet heightened standards to make a claim of fraud in court.
One of the problems claiming fraud is not only a high standard but also producing evidence. I don't see that they have any cases remaining in the courts.

 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:13 PM
 
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another "may have".


not a good option to bring to court.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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It’s what they expected...how else will we get to the Supreme Court?
He is arguing something that their own team dropped from the complaint. You can't go to court for one thing and then argue a totally different case.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:15 PM
 
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so far all i've heard her mention is affidavits about what the machine is capable of doing, not any evidence of what did happen in the 2020 election. "could have happened" is not going to go far in court.
And even that is theoretical. Her Venezuelan example of what may have happened there is disputed. Even so, it involved different software than that used by Dominion or other U.S suppliers. Rudy was ahem a tad confused when he tweeted otherwise.

In any case, no one disagrees that oversight remains crucial. Trump just doesn't like either the vote count or what about every state election official and Homeland Security has told him.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:18 PM
 
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He is arguing something that their own team dropped from the complaint. You can't go to court for one thing and then argue a totally different case.
I mean you CAN, you just get laughed at.

Wonder if Rudy G. ends up disbared after all this.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:20 PM
 
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I mean you CAN, you just get laughed at.

Wonder if Rudy G. ends up disbared after all this.
The judge is doing a remarkable job of dealing with this, including having to explain things to super attorney Rudy.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:31 PM
 
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I thought it was overruled by the PA Supreme Court not a federal court. Why wouldnt they appeal to the fed court?

If they are going to use that as an issue in the Rudy case they would need it to be overturned. They can only get it overturned in a federal court.
I believe they need to go entirely through the state supreme court first in order to claim that the state isn't following their own rules, which is how they hope to get the SC involved in this. If they tried before this the SC would refuse to take the case indicating that as a matter of law you cant claim the state isnt following their own rules until you've lost all your state level hearings. I however, am NOT a lawyer.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 04:45 PM
 
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Maybe someone should tell Rudy that, because he is currently trying to argue it even though it was dropped from the case by the Trump attorneys in the amended complaint.
Not sure what makes you think that.

The issue of not having enough access to conduct meaningful observation is all over the amended complaint.

That was the heart of the case the PA Supreme Court overturned today.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 05:05 PM
 
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Not sure what makes you think that.

The issue of not having enough access to conduct meaningful observation is all over the amended complaint.

That was the heart of the case the PA Supreme Court overturned today.
The judges statement during the hearing today that that complaint had been redlined by the plaintiffs attorneys.

The two claims they are making in this case are at the bottom of the amended complaint starting on page 56.
Count 1 is a 14th amendment claim that some areas allowed curing of ballots and others didn't.
Count 2 is a violation of electors and election clause. It is stating that no one can change election laws except for legislature.

https://electioncases.osu.edu/wp-con...var-Doc125.pdf

Maybe you read the original portion of the amended complaint and didn't see the amended portion at the bottom.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 05:13 PM
 
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Another good interview:

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1328828608350138370
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