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I have stage IV cancer and no job. If they succeed in gutting the ACA then I’m screwed. I’m maintaining my status pretty well right now but if things should turn ugly, I figure I’ll have three choices...die, seek treatment but go bankrupt, or move to another country. My daughter and grand baby are in Chile right now, but due to the mishandling of the covid crisis, I don’t have the option to go there right now, or many other places for that matter. So, we all know what that means. I’m ok with dying...I just wish there weren’t so many other people who are ok with it too. Many of those people are friends and family.
I don't know. Obama certainly kicked millions of people off their health insurance seven years ago. The Democrats didn't care about any of them.
No he didn’t “kick them off”; he offered something different. They chose to think they were kicked off. They resent that all Americans deserve a fair shot at having healthcare.
I have stage IV cancer and no job. If they succeed in gutting the ACA then I’m screwed. I’m maintaining my status pretty well right now but if things should turn ugly, I figure I’ll have three choices...die, seek treatment but go bankrupt, or move to another country. My daughter and grand baby are in Chile right now, but due to the mishandling of the covid crisis, I don’t have the option to go there right now, or many other places for that matter. So, we all know what that means. I’m ok with dying...I just wish there weren’t so many other people who are ok with it too. Many of those people are friends and family.
I am sorry to hear that. I have faith good will defeat evil in this case.
I didn't like being taxed for not having legalized theft, aka mandatory health insurance Obamacare. Like always, government likes to take from one, only to give to others of their choice. Nothing should be mandatory and the only way insurance companies make money is collect from the healthy to pay out the sick. Government's involvement in anything always results in higher cost for everyone. So, get rid of it.
I didn't like being taxed for not having legalized theft, aka mandatory health insurance Obamacare. Like always, government likes to take from one, only to give to others of their choice. Nothing should be mandatory and the only way insurance companies make money is collect from the healthy to pay out the sick. Government's involvement in anything always results in higher cost for everyone. So, get rid of it.
The supreme court ruled that the individual mandate was unconstitutional in 2017. So it doesn't exist and your comment is meaningless.
I didn't like being taxed for not having legalized theft, aka mandatory health insurance Obamacare. Like always, government likes to take from one, only to give to others of their choice. Nothing should be mandatory and the only way insurance companies make money is collect from the healthy to pay out the sick. Government's involvement in anything always results in higher cost for everyone. So, get rid of it.
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Originally Posted by stepka
I have stage IV cancer and no job. If they succeed in gutting the ACA then I’m screwed. I’m maintaining my status pretty well right now but if things should turn ugly, I figure I’ll have three choices...die, seek treatment but go bankrupt, or move to another country. My daughter and grand baby are in Chile right now, but due to the mishandling of the covid crisis, I don’t have the option to go there right now, or many other places for that matter. So, we all know what that means. I’m ok with dying...I just wish there weren’t so many other people who are ok with it too. Many of those people are friends and family.
So what should someone like myself do? I guess you’re ok with people dying who may not have to if they had healthcare? How could that possibly be good for the economy?
I am sorry to hear that. I have faith good will defeat evil in this case.
I don’t have that faith. That faith began to fade quickly four years ago and now the stress of this is intense. Stress is really bad for healing and might’ve caused my cancer in the first place. I will probably try to stay away from watching SC proceedings.
No he didn’t “kick them off”; he offered something different. They chose to think they were kicked off. They resent that all Americans deserve a fair shot at having healthcare.
He offered something that was more expensive, didn’t allow us to keep our doctor, had ridiculous premiums, and was hardly an insurance plan at all. We resent that our insurance became worthless so that other people could get to go to the doctor free and pay nothing for their plans.
You honestly think that responsible people who have supported themselves all their lives and had access to doctors and affordable plans should be OK with losing all that so other people could get more free stuff? You liberals are such hypocrites. I bet you have a good employer, or possibly federal, insurance plan so you can afford to be so magnanimous. No skin off your back.
It's not a Trump effort, but a state-led effort that the administration is supporting.
There were four votes in favor of striking down the entire ACA based on the mandate being unconstitutional from what I recall), but the Court has shifted somewhat since then, namely with Justice Scalia dying and Justice Kennedy retiring (they were among the group of four on this point). Assuming that Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett hold the similar view, the ACA should be overturned.
Even if it's not overturned in its entirety, based on the Court's in the original case that upheld the bulk of the act as written based on the theory that individual mandate was a tax, the fact that there is no longer a tax hook should mean that at least some parts of the ACA cannot stand. Whether the Court is willing to invalidate the entire act is another story.
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