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Old 11-10-2020, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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LOL. You act like Republicans have a chance in cities. They don't. No matter what method we are using.


The point remains that--whether we are counting the cities or elsewhere (and no one is claiming that the Republicans would win the cities)--there are a large number of Republican voters in blue states who aren't voting due to believing their vote won't count to flipping the state. But they don't have to flip the state or the cities to increase Republican voter turnout in a national popular vote count. The fact that we don't have an election aimed at the national popular vote, which would feasibly get more of these voters to the polls, makes such touting of national vote totals ridiculous. That's the point.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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We do, Democrats will whoop your ass in the cities. As always.

Trump lost 3 times this election:

The real vote (popular vote)

The symbolic vote (electoral college)

The Republican Virus (COVID-19)

That is 3 times Trump lost.

And it wasn't even hard for Biden. He is on track to win 290-300+ votes. He didn't even break a sweat.
This just shows that much of the American electorate is woefully lacking in an understanding of basic civics. We don't elect presidents based on a national popular vote, so how is this the "real vote"
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:23 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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When nothing comes of Trump's witch hunt (Dems deserve to get a witch hunt thrown in their faces), there are going to be 72M butt hurt Trump supporters who will still say they were cheated and the election was fraudulent. His supporters just seem more cultish than any supporters of any president I have ever seen.
LOL! What comes around goes around pal. You screamed "not my president" for 4 years over a fake Russian collusion hoax and now we get to tell you your candidate is illegitimate for 4 years. The difference is, Biden actually is illegitimate. Anyway, we'll have this discussion again in 2024. If the fraudulent vote counts hold up, it will be a Biden Trump rematch. There is no way Joe Biden will win that, and I will bet you any amount of money on it. Even Democrats don't want a Trump/Biden contest in 2024, because they know they will lose that one just like they lost this one. Republicans will be ready for the fraud in 2024 and Democrats won't have COVID-19 around to disguise their cheating.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:23 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Biden kicked Trumps ass. Trump is a “loserâ€...
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:24 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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We do, Democrats will whoop your ass in the cities. As always.

Trump lost 3 times this election:

The real vote (popular vote)

The symbolic vote (electoral college)

The Republican Virus (COVID-19)

That is 3 times Trump lost.

And it wasn't even hard for Biden. He is on track to win 290-300+ votes. He didn't even break a sweat.
Democrats cheat their ass off in the cities. If you don't recognize that fact, you are woefully ignorant of history. That wouldn't surprise me, since most liberals deny history in addition to denying science.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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When nothing comes of Trump's witch hunt (Dems deserve to get a witch hunt thrown in their faces), there are going to be 72M butt hurt Trump supporters who will still say they were cheated and the election was fraudulent. His supporters just seem more cultish than any supporters of any president I have ever seen.
Good.

Didn’t Democrats and CNN just spend the last 4 years talking about “not my president, russian interference, James comey unfairness, and protests?â€

It’s called getting a taste of your own medicine.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:33 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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There is a large number of Democrats not voting because they thought they will win for sure. So same argument. Democrats will come out in doves knowing that Republicans try to complete. Republicans will get crushed.

BTW, Democrats beat you BOTH in electoral votes AND popular votes. Obama did it. Biden did it. Gore did it. We don't need to hide behind the electoral college.
Poor thing. Even though you think you won, you know you lost. Senate stays GOP. House gets 10-15 new GOP members. Not a single statehouse flips to GOP and Republicans take New Hampshire, Montana, and hold NC, IA, TX, FL, and every other statehouse right before redistricting.

Let's face it, Trump won despite the fraud by the media and Democrats. He might have to take a break from being President for 4 years because of the cheating, but during that break the Democrats are going to lose everything else, i.e. more Senate seats and the House of Representatives.

Oh, and no matter what ACB is on the SCOTUS for the next 30 or 40 years instead of an RBG clone. Yeah, there is nothing Donald Trump did except save the country from you people for a generation.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:40 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I don't exactly consider a 3 percentage point margin paired with down-ballot losses to be a drubbing, but okay.
in a polarized a gerrymandered society, 3% is a lot.


Dems in the House are going to lose seats they never should have won

in 2008, Barack Obama won 242 Congressional districts, That means he only lost 193

Of those 197 he lost were

New Mexico 2nd by 2 (Xochitl Torres Small)
Oklahoma 5th by 18 ( Kendra Horn)
Staten Island by 4 ( Max Rose's district)
South Carolina 1st by 13(Joe Cunningham)
Minnesota 7th by 3( Colin Peterson)
Florida 26th by 1,000 votes(Powell)
Florida 27th by 2 (Shalala)
Utah 4th by 15 (McAdams)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...district-lines

Most New York and California districts have been redrawn to a point, that i cant figure out what used to be what back in 2008.

The point is, in the bluest of blue waves, these districts either didnt flip blue or barely did. Lets not pretend like Dems were losing some D+15 districts or something.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Various
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The point remains that--whether we are counting the cities or elsewhere (and no one is claiming that the Republicans would win the cities)--there are a large number of Republican voters in blue states who aren't voting due to believing their vote won't count to flipping the state. But they don't have to flip the state or the cities to increase Republican voter turnout in a national popular vote count. The fact that we don't have an election aimed at the national popular vote, which would feasibly get more of these voters to the polls, makes such touting of national vote totals ridiculous. That's the point.
Yep, it's not complicated. Unless there is mandatory voting, there is no such thing as a "popular vote".
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Various
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Keep telling yourself that. Keep crying yourself to sleep at night. Look, Democrats didn't have a particularly good night. You are right. The difference is, I am not crying about it. We didn't do as good as we need to in the senate and house races. That is on us.
I suspect you will be when you figure out what it means.
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