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Old 11-16-2020, 11:33 AM
 
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Do you get upset bt the right radicals given power by POUS Trump.

There will always be fringe groups on the left and right. You are giving them too much credit/power.
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Old 11-16-2020, 11:33 AM
 
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This plan of action has already worked to perfection with blacks and many other minorities, the indoctrinated youth, and most suburban females. Is it really a long shot when you have just witnessed first hand how many ignorant people are out there?
In other words, views that are archaic and no longer popular anymore. New generations see things differently since they grew up in a different world.
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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If Bernie Sanders, AOC and squad were not in Washington. Would the election bother you as much as it does. Bernie is a socialist , with ideas that are truthfully crazy at times. AOC and her squad have terrified people...Ilhman is anti Semitic . Their talk of completely defunding police has frightened many. Why do they have to go so far left, trying to destroy jobs, economy our lives.

Instead of fighting left and right sides maybe we just need to stop socialism , stop defunding police talk, stop antifa, work to put our country first, get people healthy from corona virus.


But we won’t. That’s the sad thing Bernie will push his agenda at all cost and so will AOC and her squad, you are watching the destruction of freedom.

I miss seeing our flag wave without someone trying to burn it, or making a derogatory comment, I miss people standing for the National anthem, I miss neighbors being neighbors. I miss walking down a street and not being afraid.
You're underestimating a very large percentage of society. He can't "Go away." He's the voice of a pretty large and growing group of people. Bernie Sanders rallies were huge, and he might have won the presidency this year if not for all the other remaining candidates dropping out and supporting Biden.

You can't get any of those things you want in your last paragraph from a change in political leaders.

There's three groups in this country who all want polar opposite things. There's the more left-leaning people ( who have never been elected yet - Bernie Sanders came closest.

There's the more right-leaning people.

Then there are the centrists like Biden.

You can't just entirely remove one of those groups. They're going to be around forever, complaining as much as the other two groups whenever they don't get their way.

I imagine the centrists are going to retain the most power for awhile now because they're the group the other two groups hate the least that isn't themselves.
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Old 11-16-2020, 03:08 PM
 
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I don't think Biden has to do anything for the left and so he won't beyond maybe some small gestures here and there.

Far left has nowhere else to go and Biden knows it.

He has to do just enough to keep them donating.
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Old 11-16-2020, 04:24 PM
 
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Bernie is one of the few on the left I respect and actually trust. You know where he stands, he’s been saying the same things for 30+ years and he doesn’t waver.

The rest, Joe Biden included have done 180 degrees on every major issue.
Bernie is all talk but does nothing, Because of him Bill H.R.6172 Reauthorization Act didn't pass.
Also lets not even forget that he tried to pass-off a 2 photos as him which weren't, I always looked at him funny since.
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Old 11-16-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I don't think Biden has to do anything for the left and so he won't beyond maybe some small gestures here and there.

Far left has nowhere else to go and Biden knows it.

He has to do just enough to keep them donating.
agreed
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:27 PM
 
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In other words, views that are archaic and no longer popular anymore. New generations see things differently since they grew up in a different world.
Hey, I'm actually socially liberal, I voted for Biden.

That being said, the younger generation is frankly still learning.

Things go in cycles, so watch and pay attention to the "do" not the "say".

That being said, I even support things like basic healthcare *gasp* but rabidly oppose illegal immigration. (aka cheap, no benefit, impossible to organize labor ironic since opposition is blindly labeled racist LMAO what the ultimate con-job.)

So sit back and enjoy the Biden show. If you're under 30 and open minded you are in for an education.

Massive improvement from Trump but you're going to see a lot of results that don't align with what you thought you might get....with some excuses as to why. (aka Blue dog democrats etc.)

P.S. Watch what happens to BLM in 2021. Just watch.
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:32 PM
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Bernie and Andrew are the two i would really truly want at the helm...unfortunately for Bernie, he is too old.
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Both political wings will try to remove your rights. That's the nature of extremists; only their view matters. But ultimately it's the moderates that get useful things done.
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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Hey, I'm actually socially liberal, I voted for Biden.

That being said, the younger generation is frankly still learning.

Things go in cycles, so watch and pay attention to the "do" not the "say".

That being said, I even support things like basic healthcare *gasp* but rabidly oppose illegal immigration. (aka cheap, no benefit, impossible to organize labor ironic since opposition is blindly labeled racist LMAO what the ultimate con-job.)

So sit back and enjoy the Biden show. If you're under 30 and open minded you are in for an education.

Massive improvement from Trump but you're going to see a lot of results that don't align with what you thought you might get....with some excuses as to why. (aka Blue dog democrats etc.)

P.S. Watch what happens to BLM in 2021. Just watch.
I get it. But I just see that we grew up in a different world than previous generations. So our scope is different. Infact one of my boomer uncles who got laid off. A Trump voter. He told me he is having a hard time getting a iob. Because companies ask for 5 years experience. Makes me remember how it was for many in 2008 after college.

He basically got the millennial experience.
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