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Old 11-17-2020, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Does Twitter ban all opposing viewpoints or do they ban unsubstantiated/false news from account holders that have a huge platform contained within the Twitter platform? There's a difference. {snip}
Did Twitter ban tweets about the Steele dossier, or Trump-Russia collusion, during the 2018 mid term elections, or any time at all?
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:23 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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What laws are you talking about? There is no law declaring that twitter should be shielded from liability, if they are going to act as a publisher rather than a platform.

So I guess you are part of "you guys".
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Does Twitter ban all opposing viewpoints or do they ban unsubstantiated/false news from account holders that have a huge platform contained within the Twitter platform? There's a difference.

Someone upthread already mentioned that The Lincoln Project was blocked for running something unverified/incorrect. That's not an opposing view--that's false information.

Someone also upthread just mentioned that people would not have voted for Joe Biden if they knew all about Hunter Biden. Again, I'm not sure that I personally want to see an unsubstantiated claim about a person being broadcast on the news. When it's proven and verified that it's not a "deep fake", then sure, let it fly. But people only really latch onto the first thing broadcast, true or not, and I do think the media outlets and the purveyors of information need to be careful not to let their platforms be overtaken but unsubstantiated claims and conspiracies. I'm not saying that this information shouldn't be verified--it most certainly should--but it's really wrong to put some of these things out there until we know the truth. The damage is done when it's found later to not be true. No one cares about the correction.
The NY Times, Trump tax return story was unverified. An "anonymous source" provided the alleged tax returns. IF the tax returns were real, then they were obtained illegally. The reason Dorsey originally cited for blocking the NY Post story is because "it was illegally obtained". A criteria that no other news organization in history, has used before. The tax returns were illegally obtained, but that didn't stop twitter from allowing the story.

...And that turned out to not even be true. The NY Post material was not obtained from hacked material.

How come this story, and many others like it, were NOT censored? There is no proof that the tax returns are any more or less real than the Hunter story. They were both unverified. Dorsey is picking and choosing which stories are real and which are false information, based on whether the stories are liberal or conservative.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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The NY Times Trump tax return story was unverified. An anonymous source provided the alleged tax returns. IF the tax returns were real, then they were obtained illegally.

How come this story, and many others like it, were NOT censored? There is no proof that the tax returns are any more or less real than the Hunter story. They were both unverified. Dorsey is picking and choosing which stories are real and which are false information, based on whether the stories are liberal or conservative.
And in violation of their hacked material policy.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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Did Twitter ban tweets about the Steele dossier, or Trump-Russia collusion, during the 2018 mid term elections, or any time at all?
Not at that time, no. They only started the warnings/blocks on tweets this year after all of the information came out in the Senate hearings about Russian disinformation on social media platforms. Some of the platforms decided to try to block that and some do not.

I get that you are upset about these unverified things being held back or having warnings placed on them, but it's also not fair to go back in the past as question what was done earlier because those decisions to try to control the foreign propaganda had not yet been made.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:28 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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So people are supposed to stay on FaceBook and Twitter, to have their opinions and even hard news censored??? Facebook and Twitter are turning into left-wing thought police sites, where only their warped version of reality is allowed to be voiced.


CNN: Parler Is A ‘Threat To Democracy’ And Is ‘Bad For The Country’

“I think big picture Pamela, here’s the concerning trend line here: people are going more and more into their own echo chambers, more and more into their own bubbles, especially Trump voters,†said Stelter, who is often referred to as CNN’s “house eunuch†by conservative pundit tucker Carlson.

“Mmm, that’s what I was gonna say,†Brown said, nodding in agreement.

“There’s this new social media app called Parler getting a lot of attention because conservatives are leaving, saying they’re leaving Twitter and Facebook, going off to Parler because they believe Parler is a safer space for them,â€
Stelter continued. “What we’re seeing is even more of a bunker mentality in right-wing media, and ultimately that’s not good for the country.â€

Brown then offered up her words of wisdom on the issue: “No, it’s not good, it’s a threat to democracy, um, that these people are in echo chambers and getting fed a diets of lies, essentially.â€
This is really funny, considering the source. Hard to believe any adult could say something like this with a straight face, but then, again, considering the source.

Have to admit, though, that CNN, considering it dishes up a constant stream of lies and garbage, knows wherein it speaks regarding such matters.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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"House eunuch", nice. That one may even be second grade level. Progress.
It's a running joke among conservatives due to his high pitched voice.

If you paid any attention to what conservatives talk about, you'd already know that.

But the Left doesn't do that. They see or hear a conservative idea and they laugh and shun it, without giving a single moment of consideration to it.

They certainly don't seek out those opinions.

The Left is uninformed, on nearly everything, because they refuse to be open to even hearing something they disagree with.

The right would be the same way, if it had control of media, but it doesn't. The Left does. Because of that, you're letting yourself be brainwashed, and I'm not being hyperbolic.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Why do they (Parler) want my phone number?

Also are there other discussions (not politics) on Parler?
For the same reason every other site with log in and passwords want your number, so when you forget your password they can send it too you.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:32 AM
 
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The NY Times, Trump tax return story was unverified. An "anonymous source" provided the alleged tax returns. IF the tax returns were real, then they were obtained illegally. The reason Dorsey originally cited for blocking the NY Post story is because "it was illegally obtained". A criteria that no other news organization in history, has used before. The tax returns were illegally obtained, but that didn't stop twitter from allowing the story.

How come this story, and many others like it, were NOT censored? There is no proof that the tax returns are any more or less real than the Hunter story. They were both unverified. Dorsey is picking and choosing which stories are real and which are false information, based on whether the stories are liberal or conservative.
I'm not going to argue that point with you. If the warnings/blocking are not done fairly, then I agree that it's not right. However, I do believe that some of this garbage that cannot be verified should be pushed as massively as it is. People are gullible and they don't know how to do research on their own to find the truth. I didn't closely follow the tax return story and the source of information or if they were verified. But they should be held to the same standard as a Hunter Biden laptop or persistent claims of cheating without evidence.
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Old 11-17-2020, 09:33 AM
 
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For the same reason every other site with log in and passwords want your number, so when you forget your password they can send it too you.
Why can't they email it?
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