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Do you ever have any disagreement with the government?
Have you ever spent any significant time under a different government? So - yep - disagree plenty.
But this is not agreeing - or disagreeing - with the gov't. This is fully supporting the conclusions I have already reached on my own - so pretty sure, at least in this case, the gov't is ALSO right.
If their conclusions didn't agree with mine - then, yep, I would disagree. But so far (with this COVID fiasco) I've seen very little of that.
Look, Virus science - how bugs work - is well-studied and largely unchanged in a lonnnnng time. It's behavior - and the trajectory of things - is fairly predictable - only the time scale is movable. And move, it does.
But - you can't have it both ways: If the scientific and predictive methods of Virus science don't apply to COVID - you must then admit - it's a special and unique virus never before seen, and special measures are required.
Except that's not the case at all.
Recent time I've disagreed: Schools opening - huge mistake, said so at the time.
The Covid didn't go away on Nov-3. The virus is real, and will infect people regardless of race, sex, or political leanings. And no, the Governor is not a RINO for doing this, he is doing it to protect the citizens.
Ohioans under curfew starting Thursday night Ohioans will be under a stay-at-home order from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. each night starting Thursday evening. The curfew will be in place for 21 days.
The order does not shut down stores or businesses, and people are able to go to a store or business to get supplies for emergencies or a restaurant to get takeout during those hours. The forthcoming order won't affect third-shift manufacturing or others who have to work during those hours, a governor's spokesman clarified.
"We believe this going to help," DeWine said. "It will reduce some of the contacts that are taking place."
I wonder just how many folks are really out and between 10p and 5a that aren't working. That's just not a helluva lot of restriction.
Maybe the "curfew" will be applied to BLM/Pantifa temper tantrums.
That would be racist!
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Originally Posted by MattCW
So the virus is only dangerous at night?
The virus is only dangerous when it works for the "agenda".
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Originally Posted by BoBromhal
yes, if 90% of people (not considering late shift workers) are home anyway, what's the difference? The young people out partying? And of course, a 10 pm curfew means things really shut down about 9 so those workers can get home.
Meanwhile, from a case count, OH was largely unaffected until now - or at least it can be said the current case activity is 5-6x higher than any prior period.
Yet the deaths today are the same as August and 1/2 or more less than May.
Read that again - cases are at least 5 times higher, but deaths are no greater than.
Now, hospitalizations (total & ICU) are WAY up - which is indeed very bad news.
We are seeing this in Kansas also, and I believe the reason is the way they are testing, and increasing testing to push up the positives. This would also explain why children aren't testing positive at the rate of adults, and why so many are asymptomatic (as in doesn't have the virus):
The cycle threshold is — roughly — the number of times a bit of genetic matter must be copied by the testing equipment to determine how infectious a given individual is. The higher the cycle threshold needed to identify COVID, the less infectious a person is; some virologists say results above 35 cycles are ‘false positives.’
KDHE says the cycle threshold on its most commonly used test is 42 and many private labs have thresholds set far above 35 — including Quest Diagnostics at 40 and LabCorp at 38.
“Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk,” Mina said. “Akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left.”
So, if labs across the country are testing this way, doesn't that start to explain, with increased testing, why they have so many false positives that they will not admit too?
It’s about time as the pandemic is in crisis mode.
WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU!
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The Covid didn't go away on Nov-3. The virus is real, and will infect people regardless of race, sex, or political leanings. And no, the Governor is not a RINO for doing this, he is doing it to protect the citizens.
Ohioans under curfew starting Thursday night
Ohioans will be under a stay-at-home order from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. each night starting Thursday evening. The curfew will be in place for 21 days.
The order does not shut down stores or businesses, and people are able to go to a store or business to get supplies for emergencies or a restaurant to get takeout during those hours. The forthcoming order won't affect third-shift manufacturing or others who have to work during those hours, a governor's spokesman clarified.
"We believe this going to help," DeWine said. "It will reduce some of the contacts that are taking place."
The Covid didn't go away on Nov-3. The virus is real, and will infect people regardless of race, sex, or political leanings. And no, the Governor is not a RINO for doing this, he is doing it to protect the citizens.
Ohioans under curfew starting Thursday night
Ohioans will be under a stay-at-home order from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. each night starting Thursday evening. The curfew will be in place for 21 days.
The order does not shut down stores or businesses, and people are able to go to a store or business to get supplies for emergencies or a restaurant to get takeout during those hours. The forthcoming order won't affect third-shift manufacturing or others who have to work during those hours, a governor's spokesman clarified.
"We believe this going to help," DeWine said. "It will reduce some of the contacts that are taking place."
So the virus really comes out to do its damage at night. During the day, you're safe - when there are a lot more people out and about. But at night - you're in danger.
Generally speaking, the later the hour, the sloppier things get, especially in places where masses gather. Not a good optic in the midst of a global pandemic where Covid is surging.
Not that it should matter, the governor is Republican and Republicans are the majority in both chambers.
Attempting to protect the state’s hospital systems from being overwhelmed is not partisan.
It shouldn't be partisan, and it didn't disappear on Nov 4 as the conspiracy nuts predicted. The OH Governor is doing a common sense thing.
Some others, like DeSantis in Florida is playing dare with the virus because he thinks people like it when he plays the tough guy. The truth is that he closed down Florida and kept is closed for a long time, but now he has revered his stance. IMO, Florida should suspend travel from Texas and hard hit Northern States for the thanksgiving week. Otherwise things could get pretty bad, because lot of people travel to FL for that week.
It shouldn't be partisan, and it didn't disappear on Nov 4 as the conspiracy nuts predicted. The OH Governor is doing a common sense thing.
Some others, like DeSantis in Florida is playing dare with the virus because he thinks people like it when he plays the tough guy. The truth is that he closed down Florida and kept is closed for a long time, but now he has revered his stance. IMO, Florida should suspend travel from Texas and hard hit Northern States for the thanksgiving week. Otherwise things could get pretty bad, because lot of people travel to FL for that week.
Please explain how it's common sense to keep people inside at NIGHT -- when a lot less people are around.
And by the way - don't you dare tell me where I can and can not travel to.
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