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Old 11-18-2020, 12:34 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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I just checked again, and it was reversed as of last night. I stand corrected. It was passed that those votes are certified.

My apologies.

Thank you, SkyDog77, for making me research again the results.
All good. I’ve certainly been caught a few times in these fast moving news cycles.
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:44 PM
 
Location: NC
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I'm sure that if there were any credible evidence of significant malfeasance, we'd be hearing about it non-stop. This is just desperation by the election loser. Any minor fraud being discovered is stochastic in nature.
True. If Trump had any proof, he couldn't stop himself from tweeting about it, even if it were "an ongoing investigation" and even if saying so jeopardized the outcome.

If there were proof, Trump would be burning Twitter up like an Apollo mission on reentry.
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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I dunno, Id argue that the number of ballots lost or delayed by dejoys damage to the postal system might be relevant. Might even be why some Republicans took some house seats. But that ones all factual and true, so not something the Republicans here want to look at. They might realize theyre the bad guys here.
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: NC
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Sometimes it's not clear from the reporting what they're showing. For example, North Carolina stopped counting in the middle of the night because they so-called ran out of votes. That referred to only the in-person votes. For some reason NC didn't immediately access or then start to count the provisional and (was it?) mail-in ballots.
Republican controlled General Assembly in Raleigh (I live in Cary, a suburb of Raleigh, same county). NC does not allow mail-in voting to be counted before the election day ends.

I'm not saying that's good or bad (it's probably both), I'm just saying that whatever the reason, it's team GOP who is in power and who mandates it, so Trump complaining about a Democratic Conspiracy doesn't make much sense....
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:59 PM
 
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True. If Trump had any proof, he couldn't stop himself from tweeting about it, even if it were "an ongoing investigation" and even if saying so jeopardized the outcome.

If there were proof, Trump would be burning Twitter up like an Apollo mission on reentry.
Oh, don't you know
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:59 PM
 
Location: STL area
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No verifiable proof, no.

I'm sure there was small scale fraud, it would be silly not to believe it could happen (and it was just as likely to be the right as the left).

Large scale. No. No actual evidence.

I mean, unless you count far right wing sources and conspiracies... and a frightening number of people are prey to them.
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Old 11-18-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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https://api.parler.com/l/AHvyk

Here’s some...
Did you read the actual link. You have smart Trump supporters explaining why this data is no good. I read every single response. Read the one from the Ph.D guy.

This is so funny!!!
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Old 11-18-2020, 01:02 PM
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Why does even same day delivery from the local post office to the local election office raise eyebrows? In our town they are literally across the street from each other and ballots get expedited processing.
I guess you are young and don't use paper mail!
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Old 11-18-2020, 01:04 PM
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The Republican election official suggested it would have been found - when he was discussing Floyd. Course that's a hypothetical. Attention was turned to the recount. If Georgia works like Detroit the poll count would not have matched the vote account. For 2,000 plus votes in a county you go looking. Not so much for the single digit votes in the Detroit precincts when margins are in thousands. That doesn't - or shouldn't stop certification.
The results were already in. It wasn't counted. They never processed the box. It just sat in a corner.

In the other county they never read the votes on a particular chip.

Not that these were fraud, but they were really sloppy.
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Old 11-18-2020, 01:06 PM
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This should make everyone feel very good about our checks and balances. A very (relatively) small fraud was caught before it ever happened.

In a juristiction of 5.8 million people, they tried to manufacture 8000 votes. Of those 8000 I think they said that only 29 were able to even get ballots, and of the 29 ballots, not a single one was tabulated (eg: Zero Fraud actually committed). The people were caught, and I assume and HOPE they will be held accountable to the full extent of the law.


So I know that President Snowflake has been very worried about voter fraud (at least the fraud that doesn't benefit him), but this should ease his anxiety and reassure him that the checks and balances are not only in place, but they are working.

So far (page 1) the answer remains "no". No verifiable proof of fraud.
And in Nevada they sent in absentee requests in a test and 8 of 9 with fake signatures got through.
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