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Old 11-25-2020, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So how about let's get on with this already so every one that can get over it, can get back to living.
PS: If that's even possible now.
It should have been handled by the market from the beginning.

I will continue to eviscerate Trumpers/hoaxers on their love of socialism as well as ignorance of science. They have blood on their hands along with the rioting/celebrating socialist Democrats.

Market, market, market.

Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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People don't want to talk about that. Nor do they want to talk about how many have survived it, vs, how many have died from it. And no one is talking about how building our immune systems will help. For that, they have wear your mask, social distance, stay home, do not go to work.
No one should have their freedom of movement, freedom of association, and freedom to engage in commerce impeded for any reason whatsoever.

Just as long as you don't violate the NAP and uphold property rights.

A large contingent of people in this country purposely got sick or did the opposite of what they knew to be morally/logically right out of political spite. Those people were the main driving force behind this thing lasting so long with so much death for a developed country. They knowingly violated the rights of others and are scumbags for it.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I already pointed this out to the Trumpers yapping about NY/NJ.

While I have no love for Emperor Cumo and his costly decisions we are basically 140 games into a regular 162-game MLB season.

We have the scouting reports. We know who likes the ball high and outside. Who is a sucker for a low fastball. Who likes to swing on first pitches. Who likes driving the ball to the opposite field.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

This has been done purely for spite by the people of North Dakota. For the culture and lay of the state one would basically have to go door-to-door and give people an instant Covid pill for it to reach this insanity.

I wouldn't doubt if they are doing that up there at this point to "show them damn Democrats".

I hate Democrats just as much as the next guy but I'm not going to inject myself with HIV-laced blood to commit suicide to spite them.

Damn, politics be annoyin'.
Soooooo you don't think it's a Democratic hoax anymore??? You are not a Trump loyalists?
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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North Dakota and South Dakota were some of the world's worst on COVID-19 for over a month but both have been plummeting for 2 or 3 weeks.

Many of those who had COVID-19 in the Dakotas had it last month and are no longer contagious. Many of those results come back during the later part of when some is contagious.

If people are usually contagious for 10 days, many likely don't even get a test until they are feeling symptoms and then a couple of days turnaround.

California is a national hotspot of COVID-19 and has lots of active cases who will be having massive, massive Thanksgiving dinners tomorrow with their big California multi-generational households with dozens of others.

Time will tell, but the trends for the Upper-Midwest are in right direction.

The Dakotas have a huge bar, church and restaurant culture also which plays into the high number of cases.

North Dakota went from one of the nation's lowest per-capita to being a world COVID hotspot, now they plummeting as fast as they increased.

North Dakota has one of the highest numbers of college students per capita and Fargo, Grand Forks have alot of very dense neighborhoods.

California is just starting on their 3rd massive wave of COVID-19.

Los Angeles has a population 10 million people and people there love living 10 to a house with multiple multi-generational households under one roof.

San Diego is very similar to Los Angeles. South and East San Diego have several families to a house in parts of the South Bay. The hospital infrastructure is terrible in San Diego County with very few hospitals for so many people.

Chula Vista is a city of nearly 300,000 with two small out-dated hospitals. Lots of Americans from Tijuana flock to San Diego when they get COVID-19 and go to those hospitals.

Bakersfield, Tulare, El Centro, Riverside will likely be a COVID hotspot soon because they like to live 10 to a house also in many areas.

San Francisco Bay Area seems to do better because people there likely wear masks and wear them well, the Bay Area has smaller households.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8E7_u2qgjE
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Soooooo you don't think it's a Democratic hoax anymore??? You are not a Trump loyalists?
I don't know where you got this idea that I am or was a Trump loyalist.

I'm an Anarcho-capitalist.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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No one should have their freedom of movement, freedom of association, and freedom to engage in commerce impeded for any reason whatsoever.

Just as long as you don't violate the NAP and uphold property rights.

A large contingent of people in this country purposely got sick or did the opposite of what they knew to be morally/logically right out of political spite. Those people were the main driving force behind this thing lasting so long with so much death for a developed country. They knowingly violated the rights of others and are scumbags for it.
Why would a libertarian want law enforcement just to enforce property rights?

There is no such thing as a libertarian. They can claim all they want but libertarians tend to love a massive law enforcement presence and a massive jail complex.

If it were up to libertarians the results of their policies would be tens of millions in jails and prisons and the libertarians would love that.

It's interesting how self-proclaimed libertarians want big government when it benefits them.

Seems like most libertarians want a big government of law enforcement also and have a nation of jails.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:43 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
People don't want to talk about that. Nor do they want to talk about how many have survived it, vs, how many have died from it. And no one is talking about how building our immune systems will help. For that, they have wear your mask, social distance, stay home, do not go to work.
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No one should have their freedom of movement, freedom of association, and freedom to engage in commerce impeded for any reason whatsoever.

Just as long as you don't violate the NAP and uphold property rights.

A large contingent of people in this country purposely got sick or did the opposite of what they knew to be morally/logically right out of political spite. Those people were the main driving force behind this thing lasting so long with so much death for a developed country. They knowingly violated the rights of others and are scumbags for it.
Wow, you took what I said, pointing out several obvious indicators of government overreach from the toolkit they used --- and you wrote that response with a straight face.
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No one should have their freedom of movement, freedom of association, and freedom to engage in commerce impeded for any reason whatsoever.
// You should have left it there.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Why would a libertarian want law enforcement just to enforce property rights?

There is no such thing as a libertarian. They can claim all they want but libertarians tend to love a massive law enforcement presence and a massive jail complex.

If it were up to libertarians the results of their policies would be tens of millions in jails and prisons and the libertarians would love that.

It's interesting how self-proclaimed libertarians want big government when it benefits them.

Seems like most libertarians want a big government of law enforcement also and have a nation of jails.
I'm an anarchist.

I don't want any public police.

All private dictated by the market like everything else.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Wow, you took what I said, pointing out several obvious indicators of government overreach from the toolkit they used --- and you wrote that response with a straight face.

// You should have left it there.
We've been over this.

When you are on video coughing on people, spitting on people, refusing to comply with the wishes of a property owner you've violated the rights of others.

I don't understand how you don't get this.

And they are doing it for political spite. They are also on record as saying they tried getting Covid or at the very least hoped that they would before doing so.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:51 PM
 
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Appearently, over 90 percent of North Dakotans who have gotten Covid have recovered already while more than 50 percent of Californians who have gotten Covid are still actively infected.


https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...h-greater.html
The vast bulk of those 'active' CA cases just haven't been followed up properly.
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