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Old 11-21-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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Before he bungled the virus.
Who says. If the economy wasn't roaring back we would be in a world of hurt right now. Only a strong economy could have survived this.
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:05 PM
 
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An embarrassment to the world.

The past four years have taken the country 20 to 30 years backwards.

No one has benefited besides the Trump family.

All of this because people were unable to think for themself and they wanted somebody else to think for them thinking they were getting something for nothing.

Wake up folks.



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Nothing but the erosion of presidential norms. The damage can't be undone.

The only achievement was the Abraham Accords, and it's not like he was the mastermind behind it.

https://youtu.be/lpmi3Zcauic
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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One thing that came out of this election was shattered misconceptions.
  • "It's the economy, stupid" is not really valid anymore. Given that unemployment, GDP and market gains were all worse under Trump than under the previous administration, Biden should have run away with this election. 72M Americans ignored that trope. It is likely dead now. The economy can be in the dumpster and an incumbent is still viable.
  • Rally sizes don't mean anything.
  • The "enthusiasm gap" is a myth.
  • You don't need Florida to win the election.
  • You don't need Ohio to win the election.
  • The popular vote margins DOES matter. You can't win by 5M+ votes without closing tiny gaps in close states like MI, WI and PA. Those votes have to come from somewhere. And many came in just the right places.
I think "It's the economy stupid" would work if we weren't as divisive amongst the media. The problem is people only believe what their preferred source for news says. If a preferred source says the economy is good, they'll believe it while if the not preferred source says it is in the toilet despite credible proof, they'll say it is fake news.

Ohio was the bigger shock as Florida went to Bush in 92, not Clinton. Ohio however did go Clinton. Ohio hasn't broken away from the President since about 1960. 60 years is a real trend with 15 elections worth of data, not a handful of elections. That said due to the paths, Ohio was not a need. Florida was but it wasn't a must-win for Biden.

The popular vote difference is a mixed bag. Biden in California alone was the 5m vote deficit.
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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An embarrassment to the world.

The past four years have taken the country 20 to 30 years backwards.

No one has benefited besides the Trump family.

All of this because people were unable to think for themself and they wanted somebody else to think for them thinking they were getting something for nothing.

Wake up folks.
False.

15 points from Slytherin.
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:26 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yes it was, if failure is accomplishing the things I like.

1) I like that the Supreme Court is no longer controlled by left wing activists. That's the single most important thing for me. That makes 4 years of Trump's horrendous personality worth it all.

It shouldn't be controlled by activists from either side. What's your evidence it has been? That means specific cases that can be shown to have been decided outside Constitutional law.


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2) I like that he ended ISIS and we never even have to think about that anymore.

Sure doesn't seem that way.


https://www.csis.org/analysis/real-w...reat-continues


No sense going further until those points are proven.
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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Yes I realize it's hard to hear but over 79 million people agreed with me resulting in a massive landslide telling Trump to pack his bags and get out of our house.
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Who says. If the economy wasn't roaring back we would be in a world of hurt right now. Only a strong economy could have survived this.
Running massive deficits all the time is sooner or later going to bite you in the ass.

Loose money and massive deficits the liberal recipe for a great economy.

Trump makes the late JM Keynes look like an arch conservative.

Now that Republicans no longer have the executive branch they will get fiscally conservative again lol

We got two parties, the tax and spend party and the borrow and spend party.
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:41 PM
 
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Yes I realize it's hard to hear but over 79 million people agreed with me resulting in a massive landslide telling Trump to pack his bags and get out of our house.
"Our house"?
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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An embarrassment to the world.

The past four years have taken the country 20 to 30 years backwards.

No one has benefited besides the Trump family.

All of this because people were unable to think for themself and they wanted somebody else to think for them thinking they were getting something for nothing.

Wake up folks.
Yeah, you and yours were really woke objecting to Trump protecting our borders just for starters, weren't you?
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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You know what was Trump's greatest triumph? He gave millions of people HOPE that America would carry on as a world super power, a shining beacon on the hill for the world to emulate. That America is the Greatest Country ever.



You know who else once offered HOPE for the nation? He was handed a Nobel Peace Prize for that thought but look how far he and his party has fallen. They make apologies and excuses for our past and present and they are poised to throw it all into the trash can of History in favor of some globalist alignment.



Obama gave us Trump and Trump gave us a Biden, a man that should be retiring and Harris that was chosen for her gender and skin tone. Lord Help US.
This is precisely what he didn't do. Everything was lip service. He pushed the allies away and that gave China a leg up. They did not care about the trade war because they have money. Not being engaged in strategic relations around the world is exactly what China was looking for. I'd highly encourage everyone to read this article:
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...mp-win/613864/
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