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Old 11-20-2020, 09:55 PM
 
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On October 29, less than a week before the election Gallup released a poll: Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?

The results?

56% said yes, 32% said worse off, and 12% about the same. Those "are you better off numbers" were the highest recorded since when this poll started in 1984 with Reagan's 49 state landslide. Trump's +24% would be amazing in a normal year considering that there is a pandemic, economic turbulence, the media dumping fear and Trump attacks hourly. Moreover, I would estimate about 1/4th of the country hates him with passion.

People clearly thought that the Trump years improved their lives, they just didn't like him as a person. Obama had net negative numbers in his first term. Most thought their lives were not better under Obama's first term and yet he won reelection, because many people thought highly of him as a person. Bill Clinton won reelection with only 38% thinking that they were better off, but Dole was weak.

Trump delivered no new wars. The first president to do so since Herbert Hoover. Obama started US involvement in 7 conflicts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Trump delivered regulation and tax cuts.

Trump fought for US manufacturing even if it is a losing battle.

Trump fought to reduce military overseas deployment.

Trump worked on illegal immigration.


If Trump had a better personality he would have won in a landslide. Trump is abrasive and insults people too much to win over key demographics.

If this is the case, the Republicans need to find someone with similar policies, but a better personality.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:36 PM
 
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I give him credit for not starting any new wars. But he did lose the war with covid and gave up on it.
Infact he sided with covid since he kept feeding his followers to it...
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:44 PM
 
Location: MD
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If Trump had a better personality he would have won in a landslide. Trump is abrasive and insults people too much to win over key demographics.
There's already a thread on this. //www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ent-wrong.html


And the answer is basically yes. The stats support this. There was a period of two weeks from March 14-27 of this year when the covid emergency first began; during this time trump actually gave experts like Fauci room to speak, didn't promote retarded conspiracies, and said the right things to make himself look like an actual human being. Consequently there was a "rally-round-the-flag" effect. That two-week period saw the most rapid increase in his approval rating throughout the entire 4-year period from 2017-today, about 3.5 percentage point increase in 13 days.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

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Old 11-20-2020, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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I agree. His malignant personality was the downfall. I really do think that he did, and would, continue to erode our democracy in order to consolidate power for himself and his family and try to turn our country into a fascist dictatorship. I’ve believed it since the day he took office and I still believe it. Thank god for checks and balances.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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On October 29, less than a week before the election Gallup released a poll: Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?


[b]Trump delivered no new wars. The first president to do so since Herbert Hoover.
No, actually, Nixon, Ford and Carter were three recent Presidents without a new war started under their administration.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ar/6086636002/

Both Ford and Carter = One Term Presidents just like Trump
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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I can kind of get his shtick during his original campaign in 2016, but it's time to "President up" once you're in the oval office. Unnecessary, boorish behavior is not a replacement for strong leadership. Ergo, his personality is ill-suited for the role. The second thing is that he didn't square up his campaign promises with "You can't always get what you want." Trillion dollar stimulus rounds? Could have just went with Bernie instead. Just another fake Republican when it comes to fiscal policy (Congress holds the purse strings anyway), but then again, fiscal conservatives are an endangered species, so it is par for the course. And more continuation of the expansion of the Administrative branch via executive orders, but this is where I will digress. By Trump!
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:12 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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On October 29, less than a week before the election Gallup released a poll: Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?

The results?

56% said yes, 32% said worse off, and 12% about the same. Those "are you better off numbers" were the highest recorded since when this poll started in 1984 with Reagan's 49 state landslide. Trump's +24% would be amazing in a normal year considering that there is a pandemic, economic turbulence, the media dumping fear and Trump attacks hourly. Moreover, I would estimate about 1/4th of the country hates him with passion.

People clearly thought that the Trump years improved their lives, they just didn't like him as a person. Obama had net negative numbers in his first term. Most thought their lives were not better under Obama's first term and yet he won reelection, because many people thought highly of him as a person. Bill Clinton won reelection with only 38% thinking that they were better off, but Dole was weak.

Trump delivered no new wars. The first president to do so since Herbert Hoover. Obama started US involvement in 7 conflicts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Trump delivered regulation and tax cuts.

Trump fought for US manufacturing even if it is a losing battle.

Trump fought to reduce military overseas deployment.

Trump worked on illegal immigration.


If Trump had a better personality he would have won in a landslide. Trump is abrasive and insults people too much to win over key demographics.

If this is the case, the Republicans need to find someone with similar policies, but a better personality.
exactly. we need a ballbuster who is fearless, who loves america, isnt a polititian and who is smart and can speak better, and can stay out of his own way.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:14 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I agree. His malignant personality was the downfall. I really do think that he did, and would, continue to erode our democracy in order to consolidate power for himself and his family and try to turn our country into a fascist dictatorship. I’ve believed it since the day he took office and I still believe it. Thank god for checks and balances.
and thsy call us trumpers conspiracy theorists
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Well duh, all politicians are equally worthless and getting paid regardless of what empty promises they make or lies they can tell.

The difference is Trump was just more hated than most. Mike Pence would’ve won his own re-election if her was POTUS
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:16 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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No, actually, Nixon, Ford and Carter were three recent Presidents without a new war started under their administration.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ar/6086636002/

Both Ford and Carter = One Term Presidents just like Trump
people must love them some war
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