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Old 11-21-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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You need to list facts, and you haven't. It's very easy to pull up the CDC's weekly influenza surveillance reports for the current year and compare them to past years. Flu season obviously hadn't occurred at this time of year by looking at the maps. The estimate for deaths was 22,000 for last year.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm

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Following widespread adoption of community mitigation measures to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, the percentage of U.S. respiratory specimens submitted for influenza testing that tested positive decreased from >20% to 2.3% and has remained at historically low interseasonal levels (0.2% versus 1–2%). Data from Southern Hemisphere countries also indicate little influenza activity.
What were you saying?
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Old 11-21-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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It's quite simple:

People aren't going out as much, they aren't getting as sick as often outside of covid.

I myself haven't called out of work sick since February.

So yes, we're going to see reduced flu numbers.
It especially helps that everyone is getting tested for COVID. Some may have the flu, but only get tested for COVID and since asymptomatic cases of COVID still test positive could be diagnosed as COVID and not the flu. Even thought they actually have the flu.

Flu numbers will be completely inaccurate this year. Just off the charts inaccurate.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think the incidence of flu will be lower because of social distancing and masks.

There was an interesting article in the Times today looking at death rates by state and comparing current to historical. There are some states with huge increases. My son is a nay-sayer but data is all causes and the one difference, IMHO, is Covid19.

I don't know if these links work but ...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e=articleShare


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e=articleShare
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:38 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Not one case? No one dying from the Flu anymore?

We do need to keep this in perspective and report only covid related infections/deaths. Lets not lower ourselves as a society and politicize unfortunate death
40,905 according to RCP.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:48 PM
 
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Yes. Per the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm



Interpretation: people are getting influenza, but at a lower rate than normal. (Perhaps due to mask wearing and social distancing?) They also say you should still get the influenza vaccine.
If I am reading the report correctly, they have 41 cases of flu for a whole week?!?
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by twinArmageddons View Post
It's quite simple:

People aren't going out as much, they aren't getting as sick as often outside of covid.

I myself haven't called out of work sick since February.

So yes, we're going to see reduced flu numbers.



So what works for the flu, does absolutely nothing for Covid??


You do know what absolute BS this is...... right?
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:45 PM
 
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It was one month after the end of the flu season when the mitigation programs for covid began in April. Of course, the numbers are going to fall as the country warms up. Compare them to the past and you'll see that not much has changed so far. All the states are green which indicates that flu season hasn't really started.
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:50 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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It's only November. The season only started a month or so ago. But you can just go to the CDC website and look for yourself how many cases there are. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

I expect them to stay nice and low, because people are doing things that prevent illness. Social distancing, wearing masks, washing hands. It works for the flu just like it works for COVID. The flu is usually not asymptomatic, unlike COVID, so if someone has symptoms (fever, cough, body aches), they'll likely be at home rather than out and about like they might have been in previous years. Cases stayed low in the southern hemisphere for this reason, so it will probably be like that in the northern hemisphere this year, too.
Except there are 10 randomized controlled trials, at least, that say masks don't do anything to prevent the flu from spreading.

But, I know you don't believe in science. You believe whatever you're told by the media and the Democrats, because you are a religious zealot and liberalism is your religion.
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Old 11-21-2020, 06:00 PM
 
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Lol. Even in this thread, people are saying that flu and colds are doing because people are wearing masks and social distancing, and the same people are saying covid cases are up because people are not wearing masks and social distancing. So which is it? Sorry, can't have it both ways. It's ridiculous that no matter how much proof is out there that covid is not worse than a flu and is just overexaggerared by politicians to push their agenda, people still prefer to believe it and live in fear. Its like everyone developed a fetish for masks, hand sanitizing and social distancing. Oh wait, there is already a scientific term for it - Stockholm syndrome. Or people just don't want to admit they were wrong and people who didn't believe in this hoax were right after all
BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT VIRUSES. You understand that they are different viruses, no? The same measures do not work the same for every virus. We’ve already explained this.

COVID IS MORE CONTAGIOUS THAN FLU AND HAS A LONGER INCUBATION PERIOD.

That is why we don’t use masks for flu and don’t do lockdowns for it. If we did, flu would be nonexistent. That’s why we are not seeing it as much this year.

Covid is transmitted much more easily. Therefore, the absolute bare minimum to contain spread is to wear masks and avoid being indoors with other people.
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Old 11-21-2020, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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It was one month after the end of the flu season when the mitigation programs for covid began in April. Of course, the numbers are going to fall as the country warms up. Compare them to the past and you'll see that not much has changed so far. All the states are green which indicates that flu season hasn't really started.
Sigh.

You know there's a big ol' world out there - and that the US isn't the center of the universe?

And that the flu season is different in other parts of the world?

From the CDC:

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Data from Southern Hemisphere countries also indicate little influenza activity.
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