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Old 11-22-2020, 08:08 PM
 
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Lol. Even in this thread, people are saying that flu and colds are doing because people are wearing masks and social distancing, and the same people are saying covid cases are up because people are not wearing masks and social distancing. So which is it? Sorry, can't have it both ways. It's ridiculous that no matter how much proof is out there that covid is not worse than a flu and is just overexaggerared by politicians to push their agenda, people still prefer to believe it and live in fear. Its like everyone developed a fetish for masks, hand sanitizing and social distancing. Oh wait, there is already a scientific term for it - Stockholm syndrome. Or people just don't want to admit they were wrong and people who didn't believe in this hoax were right after all
Right.

People have been wearing masks around here for several months now and we're in the "Red Zone" and, even though they never opened back up again fully, they have shut things back down again.
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:13 PM
 
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BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT VIRUSES. You understand that they are different viruses, no? The same measures do not work the same for every virus. We’ve already explained this.

COVID IS MORE CONTAGIOUS THAN FLU AND HAS A LONGER INCUBATION PERIOD.

That is why we don’t use masks for flu and don’t do lockdowns for it. If we did, flu would be nonexistent. That’s why we are not seeing it as much this year.

Covid is transmitted much more easily. Therefore, the absolute bare minimum to contain spread is to wear masks and avoid being indoors with other people.
The poster pointed out that out of one side of the pro-masker's mouth they are claiming that flu cases are down because everyone's wearing a mask while out the other side of the pro-masker's mouth they are claiming that COVID cases are up because people are not wearing masks. Which is it? Are people wearing masks or not? But you respond with this that has nothing to do with the point this poster was making.
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:16 PM
 
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Hong Kong and Taiwan eradicated their seasonal flu earlier this year with 95-99% mask compliance
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:19 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Lol. Even in this thread, people are saying that flu and colds are doing because people are wearing masks and social distancing, and the same people are saying covid cases are up because people are not wearing masks and social distancing. So which is it? Sorry, can't have it both ways.
This reasoning is faulty. The flu number are down, not zero. Ordinarily, Americans take pretty much no precautions. Now some Americans are taking some precautions. It's enough to lower the spread of flu from what it would be in a normal year but not stop flu. It's enough to reduce Covid transmission from what it would have been without any precautions, but not stop Covid. If more people were practicing masking and social distancing with greater fidelity there would be both less flu and less Covid.
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:48 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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This board is becoming exhausting with the Covid = hoax crowd.

How long did this take you? Took me 15 seconds. Thanks.

Jesus, people. Is everyone on this site a Trumper or what?

For the insane who don't know how to manipulate their Googling machiny-thingy I'll repeat your link...

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
From your link ... "Seasonal influenza activity in the United States remains lower than usual for this time of year."


How Deadly Was the 2019-2020 Flu Season?
June 2, 2020

"While COVID-19 may have impacted flu-like illness reporting, the CDC estimates there were between 24,000-62,000 related deaths this year.

However, due to the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, these numbers may be higher than normal for this time of year. The season-ending estimates for the flu may eventually be adjusted once complete and finalized data becomes available for the season, the CDC explained."


US Flu Cases Reach 29 Million: Have We Hit Peak Season?
February 27, 2020

"Influenza-associated hospitalization rates among children and young adults are considered higher than recent flu seasons.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that there have been 29 million influenza cases in the United States in the 2019-20 season.

Influenza activity remains high, as it has been in recent weeks, but the latest flu data indicates that activity decreased slightly this week.

Overall, visits to clinicians for influenza-like-illness decreased from 6.7% last week to 6.1% this week. However, all US regions remain above baseline in reporting outpatient influenza-like-illness occurrence."
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Then if you do that. How many other afflictions causing deaths are attributing it to COVID deaths to serve a political end? Who knows.
Hospitals are not going to do that. Falsifying a COVID-19 diagnosis is fraud and can result in svere penalties, including loss of participation in Medicare.
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It especially helps that everyone is getting tested for COVID. Some may have the flu, but only get tested for COVID and since asymptomatic cases of COVID still test positive could be diagnosed as COVID and not the flu. Even thought they actually have the flu.

Flu numbers will be completely inaccurate this year. Just off the charts inaccurate.
False. There will be even more testing for flu because of the necessity to differentiate the two. It is also possible to be coinfected with both.

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If I am reading the report correctly, they have 41 cases of flu for a whole week?!?
Flu almost disappeared in the Southern Hemisphere last year due to COVID-19 mitigation measures.

Australia, for example:

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...c56a8c0cfb7fb6
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Old 11-23-2020, 06:46 AM
 
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Hospital Doctor: "We have a patient with the Flu."
Hospital Administrator. : " If they have Covid we get a $75,000 government check."
Hospital Doctor: " We have a patient with Covid."
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:15 AM
 
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Hospital Doctor: "We have a patient with the Flu."
Hospital Administrator. : " If they have Covid we get a $75,000 government check."
Hospital Doctor: " We have a patient with Covid."
Hospitals have already been reimbursed centrally for taking Covid 19 patients. If they take on new ones they don't get paid more. Patients can certainly have both Covid 19 and Influenza at the same time. But no doctor is going to fraudulently make the Covid 19 diagnosis without clinical or laboratory documentation. The doc does not get paid more.
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Old 11-24-2020, 12:02 AM
 
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Come on people. Use the brain!
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