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This is why a nationwide policy on covid behavior is not a good plan. Localities need to be able to (and should be) deciding what's best for their area.
If we had a consistent nationwide policy we might not have the problems present day. Instead we have random approaches in 50 states with many ignoring the virus. Some of these rural areas without a hospital within 300 miles have no good options and are being overwhelmed.
If we had a consistent nationwide policy we might not have the problems present day. Instead we have random approaches in 50 states with many ignoring the virus. Some of these rural areas without a hospital within 300 miles have no good options and are being overwhelmed.
Unless you want a total nationwide lockdown....you can't have a consistent nationwide policy because what works for big cities probably doesn't work for rural areas.
And what works for warm weather states - outdoor dining and such - won't work in the north in the wintertime months. It is not one size fits all which is why it needs to be left up to the governors.
So, do you want a nationwide lockdown? And that means, sports shuts down, all entertainment shuts down,, all restaurants close.
We pay the entire country to not work.
You stay in your house until you're told not to.
Sound fun?
Last edited by BeerGeek40; 11-23-2020 at 06:27 AM..
Unless you want a total nationwide lockdown....you can't have a consistent nationwide policy because what works for big cities probably doesn't work for rural areas.
So, do you want a nationwide lockdown? And that means, sports shuts down, all entertainment shuts down,, all restaurants close.
We pay the entire country to not work.
You stay in your house until you're told not to.
Sound fun?
You need to react to the virus when the rate increases, not sure what lockdowns mean but reducing restaurant capacity or shutting down indoor dining when the virus increases makes sense. Sports area already mostly shut down but hopefully that will change. Does it make much sense to continue indoor dining in North Dakota that has the highest infection rate in the country and 9 ICU beds, how about Utah where they are rationing critical care.
These threads that keep attempting to claim that it's not that bad are senseless. It's easy to see infections rising with Thanksgiving this week with all the travel and family gatherings, we are in for bad times until we get a vaccine.
Something I have been wondering, living in an area where mask enforcement has been strict, and I am thankful for that. If I am vaccinated in early December, am I going to have to continue to wear a mask just to appease the people in public places who don't know that I have been vaccinated?
The only alternative, I can think of is to have my vaccination record on my phone, ready to show anybody who is concerned. Which is kind of eerily reminiscent of socialist and communist societies of the past, "Let me see your papers." But it may just be something necessary to put up with until most people have been vaccinated.
It also remains to be seen whether these vaccinations are truly 95% effective. Also, I am wondering if the other 5% will get a milder form of the disease, like we see with the flu vaccine. This vaccine has a totally different mechanism of action than the flu vaccine, but theoretically, it should allow everybody to mount at least SOME immune response above the response a non-vaccinated person mounts, but I guess that remains to be seen as well. Add to that, we don't know how long this immunity will last. Since it causes the body to create antibodies specifically to the spike proteins, I think it should avoid most of the problems of the virus mutating, like with the flu vaccine, because the virus would have to have a specific mutation of the spike proteins, instead of a general mutation in order for it to be not recognized by the body's antibodies. But this is all theoretical. I think we will have to wait a while before we see how this works out, wide scale, in the real world, outside of a lab.
I know Trump has instructed his minions to say the media is evil, but the media is not making it up. The situation is serious.
The media is evil and it has nothing to do with Trump. Nobody said "they are making it up". But they are making it sound much worse than it actually is.
These threads that keep attempting to claim that it's not that bad are senseless.
And threads that fan the flames of panic are also senseless.
As of today, we have 330,000,000 people in the USA. Only 23,113 virus patients are considered serious or critical. That's LESS THAN FOUR PATIENTS PER HOSPITAL in the USA.
Imagine how many fewer patients there would be if masks only actually worked. Sadly, they don't.
The 'spreader' events people aren't wearing masks. They are meeting up at Aunt Sallie's for a birthday party, or hosting a friendsgiving with 20 of their closest friends.
And threads that fan the flames of panic are also senseless.
As of today, we have 330,000,000 people in the USA. Only 23,113 virus patients are considered serious or critical. That's LESS THAN FOUR PATIENTS PER HOSPITAL in the USA.
Stop the panic. Be realistic.
Being "realistic" means being able to understand that virus outbreaks do not occur equitably across the country. If they did, then you might have a point. But they don't.
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