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Old 11-23-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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Remember how everyone knew the Mueller probe was going nowhere except for a few die hard lefties? I think the media knew too, they were just trying to boost ratings and damage Trump politically.

This is the inverse. It is going nowhere and Biden will be president. The only people who don't know this are diehard Trump supporters.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:24 AM
 
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my guess is that they hated trump and were desperate to remove him; and there is a time limit, and its far easier to fill one slot than many.
“Guess” being the operative word here.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:37 AM
 
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Elections are run by localities and states have different requirements when it comes to vote procedures and to equipment used. The machines and software are complicated, and that does open the door for both potential fraud and - probably the greater threat - to user error. So-called machine error often is caused by poorly trained election officials and poll workers. That it happens is wrong, but the impact is local with procedures in place to identify anomalies.

Voting machines and other election hardware along with software need be certified well before an election. Last minute software changes are not allowed. That is the positive but then later-discovered glitches that should lead to a patch then can't get made. Interim work arounds and additional checks have to address them.

The allegations appear to center on system-wide software manipulation introduced years before supposedly in Venezuela. That these manipulations wolud have survived years of scrutiny by multiple states and different independents labs is highly unlikely.

To protect against cyber attacks and hacking, voting systems are not by and large connected to the internet. Some do have modems in scanners used to transmit results more quickly for faster public reporting. Results don't have to be uploaded on memory cards where once again there can be an error. The over looked memory cards in Georgia. Additional steps are required to protect modem-connected systems.

There are vulnerabilities. But to go from being able to manipulate computer code - which of course is possible and done all the time - to hacking an election is a major leap.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:39 AM
 
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There were also servers deep in the south pole.
And on the international space station.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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Well then all you lefties have nothing to worry about.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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Not saying that I believe this theory, but if you read the details this “by-hand” recount is still machine tallied. Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc11.c...biden/7864164/

So the idea would be that the machines in counties where fraud occurred could theoretically be tampered with to tally ballots for each candidate differently. It seems far-fetched, but who knows what these machines are capable of since the source code is not publicly available.

Seems like a logical, bipartisan solution is to stop letting private companies use secret proprietary code to count ballots. It’s such a simple task that everything should be open source and election officials should be free to verify that nothing other than that publicly available code ever was executed on the machines.
That is so unlikely that I don't believe it is the allegation. Poll workers most of whom probably know nothing about software altering code on the sly? Middle-of-the-night break-ins? For even the battleground states, we must be talking about literally many many thousands of standalone voting machines.

At some point, precincts have to total votes aggregated within the voting machines. That is a separate step done on yet different equipment that may have nothing to do with Dominion? In some localities, votes may be tabulated at central location. Clueless here, since Kraken never has been that clearly spelled out.

It's not clear how Dominion ever got dragged into this since it wasn't the machine used in many of the disputed counties. There's no connection between Dominion and Venezuela. Presumably there were enough coincidences - a firm once owned by Dominion was sold to someone else that had a connection with this person ??? etc. - that it looked like a good target for a conspiracy theory
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:56 AM
 
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Wonder why their servers were in Germany?
Because they weren't. Don't believe everything you read.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:00 PM
 
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There were also servers deep in the south pole.
They also had servers on the Moon. Luckily, those servers have been seized by the Space Force.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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They recounted the ballots by hand in Georgia and found no evidence that the Dominion machines were responsible for massive voter fraud.

Trump supporters are quickly losing touch with reality.
That happened the minute he won the nomination.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:08 PM
 
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Some of the best lines in that interview:

"In the 14 counties in Pennsylvania where Dominion Voting Machines were used, Trump won 52% of the vote."

"The machines have no unlocked USB drive ports to upload data... and even if they did, you'd lack the paper record."

"Hand recounts in GA in counties where Dominion Machines were used matched the tallies by the Dominion Machines."

Mind you, when using these machines, the voter gets a printout of the vote. So they saw who they voted for before it was inserted into the tabulator. I hate to say it, but if Trump voters wanted to vote for Trump but their ballot said "Biden" and they voted for Biden anyway - that's worse than all the Gore voters in 2000 that voted for Pat Buchanan in Florida due to the weird butterfly ballot.

Seems that the "glitch" is a bogus notion. Next.
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