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Old 11-24-2020, 12:42 PM
 
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What kind of fool would vote for any president that didn't put America and Americans first? That's their damn job! We elected them to work for us-not to sacrifice the US for the rest of the world. Same goes for any other nation-why would any leader NOT be accountable to his people to put their interests first?
78 million fools. China first, according to creepy Joe.
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Old 11-24-2020, 12:47 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Of course if general Mattis says America is not first
What army does he serve?
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Old 11-24-2020, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Mattis to Biden: No more America first
It goes without saying every country looks after their own interests first, but its stupid to talk to allies like NATO members and say "we're first, and you're second". You gain nothing by spouting such campaign slogans in situations like that.

Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 11-24-2020 at 01:35 PM..
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:02 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Can a Democrat explain to me why this is a good idea WITHOUT mentioning “what the rest of the world thinks of us”?

Please.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...-2020-11%3famp

He did not say no more America First, he said no more America First politics which among other things failed to make/keep America safer.
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:03 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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You keep using different eras which have nothing to do with the right now.

So all the money we spend on foreign aid and security isn’t participating?

Watching Biden speak now; he just said “America’s back and we will be back at the head of the table soon.”

What a J-O-K-E.
History repeats itself.

You equated participation as "just existing". now you are talking about foreign aid which isn't "just existing".. your own double speak.
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:03 PM
 
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lol....the more you hear from Mattis, the easier it becomes to understand why American never won a war since Korea. The man is a stone cold coward.
Yeah....most Marines who have served with him would categorize Mattie as a coward.

I put my trust in him over cadet bone spurs.
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:08 PM
 
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Can a Democrat explain to me why this is a good idea WITHOUT mentioning “what the rest of the world thinks of us”?

Please.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...-2020-11%3famp
Why is it a good idea? Read the article:


The four authors said that because the world was becoming less safe for the US and American interests, the country needed a "defense in depth" strategy. Such a strategy requires alliances, international partners who can help the US identify and deal "with global problems where they occur rather than waiting for threats to reach American shores," they wrote.

"Enhancing national security must start with the fundamental truth that the United States cannot protect itself or its interests without the help of others," Mattis and the other authors wrote.

The authors said "America First" was essentially "America alone" and a threat to US interests. They added that the US was "undermining the foundations of an international order manifestly advantageous to US interests, reflecting a basic ignorance of the extent to which both robust alliances and international institutions provide vital strategic depth."
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:11 PM
 
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Do all 80 million of you Biden voters want Socialism?
None of us do. Why, do you?
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...-2020-11%3famp

My bad, should have included a link.

And as to the rest of your statement, I, too, am just dumbfounded.

All this is about is making us look nice (so we can be suckers and trampled on again).
Back to Uncle Sucker. Guarantee everyone security, pay for most of it, with a half million man army. We had 15 million under arms during WWII. Our enemies are more numerous now.

The NATOes need to pay their own freight, ditto SoKo and Japan. Our budget is busted, another stimulus with $2-3 trillion added debt. You can't do that forever.
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It goes without saying every country looks after their own interests first, but its stupid to talk to allies like NATO members and say "we're first, and you're second". You gain nothing by spouting such language.
It's far more stupid to pay for their defense, while they contribute virtually nothing.
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