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Only racially clean bloodlines, err, I mean, only rich people should have kids - those who can afford them. We, the greatest German, err, I mean, American nation should not pay for Untermensches, err, I mean, poor deplorables.
Well...pretty much.
And why not, if the whole basis of the US economic system, the whole idea behind it is "the profits" above anything else?
Of course when it comes to the mores and the social beliefs of the society, that's a somewhat different story, but economic basis?
That's what it's all about, and all these "maternity leaves" go directly against the idea of profits.
Most employer benefits were forced by laws on employers each time they argued it will put them out of business. This goes for workers compensation insurance, unemployment insurance, Family leave medical paid or unpaid, and minimum wage. When min wage was raised to $5, 7, 10 and so forth same employers said they go out of business if that passes they are still with us years later.
And I did. When I had a baby I wanted to work from home and my employer said no. I quit my job and decided to raise children instead. But there are so many economically disadvantaged people who do not have the option to just do that.
Then by definition they shouldn't have children.
They shouldn't have children, unless, of course, they caught the "blue bird" of luck by its tail in the US, because the US gives such opportunity for anyone coming from different parts of the world.
And if they didn't catch the aforementioned bird, the US is not particularly interested in their offsprings, because the US demography is not dependent on these people for replenishment of population.
There are gazillion of other people at any time, knocking on America's door to catch this chance.
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That is why the government must force their hands so that they do the right thing.
And what government this would be?
So-called "democratic government," that deprived Russians of these opportunities and has stolen their ideas regarding women's emancipation and all, hoping to implement them in the US?
Because yes, back in Soviet times women were taking maternity leave at six months of pregnancy and were going back to work when the child was at least 9 months of age, since no daycare would have accepted the child younger than that.
But then, again, Soviet Union was dependent on these mothers to replenish the population with no immigration stream in sight, and that's why the government of course was behind the redistribution of funds, in order to keep the demography going.
Then by definition they shouldn't have children.
They shouldn't have children, unless, of course, they caught the "blue bird" of luck by its tail in the US, because the US gives such opportunity for anyone coming from different parts of the world.
And if they didn't catch the aforementioned bird, the US is not particularly interested in their offsprings, because the US demography is not dependent on these people for replenishment of population.
There are gazillion of other people at any time, knocking on America's door to catch this chance.
And what government this would be?
So-called "democratic government," that deprived Russians of these opportunities and has stolen their ideas regarding women's emancipation and all, hoping to implement them in the US?
Because yes, back in Soviet times women were taking maternity leave at six months of pregnancy and were going back to work when the child was at least 9 months of age, since no daycare would have accepted the child younger than that.
But then, again, Soviet Union was dependent on these mothers to replenish the population with no immigration stream in sight, and that's why the government of course was behind the redistribution of funds, in order to keep the demography going.
Correction here: in USSR maternity leave was 1 year with 100% of the salary paid; next 2 years of maternity leave were "only" with 80% of the salary paid. Horrible, horrible dictatorship, you know...
Correction here: in USSR maternity leave was 1 year with 100% of the salary paid; next 2 years of maternity leave were "only" with 80% of the salary paid. Horrible, horrible dictatorship, you know...
It WAS dictatorship all right, but when it comes to "women's emancipation" issues, it was far more advanced than anything in the West.
Because "the collective" and "Socialism" are competitive with "women's emancipation" to begin with, while capitalism and "individualism and independence" ( and that's America's very foundation) are NOT.
So now, when democrats are trying to twist and turn this issue to fit their agenda, it becomes more and more controversial subject, as the arguments on this particular thread clearly show.
Some would love to scrap America all together for what it was ( and basically still is,) and to start everything all over again only for this issue along, but to no avail for obvious reasons. Because the other part of America sticks to the principles of its foundation.
To be anti marriage and anti family the US sure does offer a lot of benefits including tax deductions, for married couples and parents.
You have incredibly high rates of out of wedlock births, especially in the African American community. These rates were caused by the anti-family policies and laws from the 1960s and 70s and now we see the consequences of those anti-family, anti-marriage policies.
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Originally Posted by Kristinas_Cap
6 weeks of maternity is not enough. It should be at least 3 months before sending the baby to daycare. Little infants should be with their mommies
I was told I can't point out that someone is the "T" word, but some just make posts to get reactions.
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Originally Posted by msRB311
It would be nice if you could choose the type of maternity leave you wanted.
You can. You can choose who you want to work for or work for yourself.
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Originally Posted by msRB311
If someone wants just 6 weeks they can do that. If someone else wants 5 months they can do that. Maybe the longest you could choose would be 6 months.
What entity gets to decide what amount of maternity leave to grant? Should there be any consequences for being gone from your position for6 months?
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It is interesting that many believe that it is too expensive to run a maternity plan in the USA but somehow other countries seem to manage it without any obvious detriment to operating a business.
There is obvious detriment to businesses in foreign countries. They have, on average, much lower productivity.
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It WAS dictatorship all right, but when it comes to "women's emancipation" issues, it was far more advanced than anything in the West.
The USSR lost almost 9 million men in combat, had another22 million wounded, lost over 2 million civilian men in non-combat deaths and sent 1 million men to the gulags. They HAD to have women do roles that men traditionally had done.
There is obvious detriment to businesses in foreign countries. They have, on average, much lower productivity.
Out of curiosity, I wonder how Germany ( or Scandinavian countries for this matter) stack up to the US in this respect...
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The USSR lost almost 9 million men in combat, had another22 million wounded, lost over 2 million civilian men in non-combat deaths and sent 1 million men to the gulags. They HAD to have women do roles that men traditionally had done.
To make the long story short - no.
The ideas of women emancipation were a big part of Soviet gov. philosophy long before the WWII that you are talking about.
Already after the Civil war Stalin had to address the issue of heavy human losses in Russia, and to prohibit abortions for this matter.
With that however, his government ppl held an extensive research among women seeking abortions, to figure our where they could pitch in, and common complaint that these women had no one to leave their children with while working, prompted the first day cares to be open.
Other complaints were taken in consideration ( such as material needs, lack of adequate nourishment for infants-toddlers,) and that's when other government programs were put in place, in order to support the collapsing demographics of Russia.
And of course in spite of the wide range of employment for women ( the cornerstone of Soviet state philosophy) in "nontraditional fields of employment" including, ( such as construction for example,) no women could replace men crawling under KAMAZ in dirt and grime to fix it, while on the road.
So as you can see, it's not exactly the WWII that prompted Soviet government to put women to work and to send children to daycares, but the idea of equality between men and women.
When it comes specifically to the WWII however - this is the ultimate sign to me, the latest discovery you might say, how inept America was in terms of the ideas of women's emancipation;
"..Pavlichenko became one of over 2000 female Soviet sharpshooters who eventually fought in World War II (although female soldiers were still just 2 percent of the Red Army's total number). Pavlichenko killed hundreds of enemy combatants in Odessa, Moldavia, and Sevastopol..
...The American press, however, had trouble taking Pavlichenko seriously. They described her as a "Girl Sniper," and focused on her physical appearance, disparaging her bulky green army uniform and minimal makeup. Instead of asking about her skills with a rifle, reporters questioned her about nail polish, hair styles, and whether female Soviet soldiers could wear makeup in battle"
Please explain to me why other people must be forced at gunpoint to pay for your childbearing decision?
If you don't like being part of society then move somewhere that doesn't have a government worth a crap like Somalia. Here in CIVILIZED world citizens deserve a certain kind of life.
If you don't like being part of society then move somewhere that doesn't have a government worth a crap like Somalia. Here in CIVILIZED world citizens deserve a certain kind of life.
Would you say the same thing before the civil war? Those democrats could really have used your help.
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