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Old 04-23-2008, 10:10 AM
 
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Will things get any better in the US or will things continue to worsen? Is this the beginning, middle or end of a downward spiral for the US? Everyone is aware of the the numerous economic, political and social problems this country is facing, so there is no need for me to list them all. Some people say the the US has lost it's capability, dominance and credibility and is not the "powerhouse" it was in its former years. Is this true, or are those who subscribe to such thinking just too pessimestic?
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Will things get any better in the US or will things continue to worsen? Is this the beginning, middle or end of a downward spiral for the US? Everyone is aware of the the numerous economic, political and social problems this country is facing, so there is no need for me to list them all. Some people say the the US has lost it's capability, dominance and credibility and is not the "powerhouse" it was in its former years. Is this true, or are those who subscribe to such thinking just too pessimestic?
It sometimes seems to me that it is less a matter of America declining than the rest of the world reaching our level of economic and social stability.

There is no doubt in my mind that we will have to readjust our aspirations: continual economic expansion as experienced over the past forty years could not be maintained indefinitely; resources are limited; the intrinsic value of growth for growth's sake is being exposed as crass and shallow, and contributory to a decline in the quality of life, particularly from the perspective of our relationship with nature and the need for us to function as more conscientious stewards of the land and environment.

But having said this, it is a hopeful sign that many Americans realize these phenomena and appreciate the importance of the decisions we make both collectively and as individuals.

The world continues to look to America for a significant part of the answers to political, social, economic, and environmental concerns. That this is true is proof that although the US is not the solitary leader and determiner of attitudes, it remains crucial to the way the world seeks innovation and entrepreneurship in ideas as well as processes.

America's mission in the 20th century was to bring freedom and progress to people in other countries. Its success in doing so is a major part of why we are no longer the unchallenged leaders of the world. From this, one could reasonably conclude that within our failure to retain our leadership in every field of human endeavor is actually the successful culmination of our efforts to bring opportunities for progress to the rest of humankind.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am agreeing with yeledaf about something. Must be a miracle.

I would add that America could not only slow the 'decline' but also greatly improve our perception as a bastion of freedom and democracy by ending our attempts to be a military and economic empire suppressing the economic growth of much of the world. We need to be an example to the world and not the world’s keepers.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I am agreeing with yeledaf about something. Must be a miracle.

I would add that America could not only slow the 'decline' but also greatly improve our perception as a bastion of freedom and democracy by ending our attempts to be a military and economic empire suppressing the economic growth of much of the world. We need to be an example to the world and not the world’s keepers.
I'm not convinced that being peceived as a "bastion of freedom and democracy" is not directly related to a nation's willingness to exert force against tyranny and terrorism.

The degree and frequency with which this force is applied is debatable, of course, but it remains indisputable that engagement is much more efficacious in dealing with overt evil than reticence.

Aside from geopolitics, I think that many aspects of American society remain inspirational to people around the world, including our willingness to address social issues straightforwardly and through legal recourse, rather than through violence. I would also argue that the viability of the presidential aspirations of an African-American is a significant signal of the robust nature of contemporary American attitudes toward equal opportunity and justice.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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FDR started us on the path to government dependence. I hate him for it. what he did was good for his time, but it ruined the country for people like me who want to do for themselves.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:11 AM
 
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FDR started us on the path to government dependence. I hate him for it. what he did was good for his time, but it ruined the country for people like me who want to do for themselves.
I'm sorry, but I see nothing wrong with government helping it's own citizens in need; especially, if it is spending billions to help those in other nations. I believe strongly that a government must "take care of home first".
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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no need to apologize. I want to take care of myself, yet I am FORCED to have the government take care of me. there aren't as many citizens in "need" as you think. there are just a lot of worthless people in this country. people perfectly healthy who choose to abuse federal systems while people in true need can't get the help.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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No. Next question?
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:02 PM
 
Location: PA
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I am agreeing with yeledaf about something. Must be a miracle.

I would add that America could not only slow the 'decline' but also greatly improve our perception as a bastion of freedom and democracy by ending our attempts to be a military and economic empire suppressing the economic growth of much of the world. We need to be an example to the world and not the world’s keepers.
I'll keep that in mind in case I see you supporting Africa or Dafur when Clinton or Obama are president. While I agree with ending our empire I wish to end all of it and not support any nations. But I find another bosnia and somila issue will again ask us to invade another country in the name of freedom by your socialist canidates.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:03 PM
 
Location: PA
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no need to apologize. I want to take care of myself, yet I am FORCED to have the government take care of me. there aren't as many citizens in "need" as you think. there are just a lot of worthless people in this country. people perfectly healthy who choose to abuse federal systems while people in true need can't get the help.

Amen... FORCED sounds alot like a tryanny not freedom to me.
Dam Socialists.
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