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Old 11-29-2020, 11:56 AM
 
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You can't tell Donald Trump this.

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WASHINGTON — As the 2020 campaign wound down, President Donald Trump held rallies across the country to fire up his supporters and get them out to vote. Many saw the rallies as a sign of big enthusiasm for Trump, but the data suggest the visits did not produce the desired impact for the president.

Comparing Trump campaign stops over the last two weeks of the race to election results shows that in the overwhelming majority of cases, Trump underperformed his 2016 margins in the counties he visited, in some cases by large amounts.

There were 30 Trump campaign stops in that period, according to an NBC News tally, in states from Arizona to Nebraska to Pennsylvania. In five counties that Trump visited he saw better results than he did in 2016, but in the remaining 25 his margins of victory got smaller, his margin of defeat grew or the county flipped Democratic.

Crowd sizes are often held out as a way to gauge support for a politician, and sometimes they are. But during a pandemic, with a polarizing candidate on the stump, it’s possible the meaning of the rallies were misread. While the crowds were visible sign of enthusiasm for Trump, there were much bigger, and less visible, groups of people who were not at the rallies and who may have seen them in a negative light.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...SdE?li=BBorjTa
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Old 11-29-2020, 11:57 AM
 
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But they totally went viral... literally...
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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Yet, he got more votes than any incumbent president EVER, and 10,000,000 more votes overall than last time. Republicans down ballot did very well too, so I'd say there was some enthusiasm there. He went where his polling told him it might do the most good. Looks like that won't be good enough.


I think that statistically the results from certain swing states are hinky as hell, but I don't think they're going to be able to prove anything in time. Mail-in voting and the pandemic played right into the Democrats hands on this one. Better for Republicans to concentrate on the GA Senate races and House gains and plan to crush the mid-terms and redistricting in the next 2 years. Limit the damage that the 3rd Obama term can do.
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:14 PM
 
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I hope anyone reading the article made it all the way down to the end where it says this:

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To be clear, none of this is provable. These are correlations, not one-for-one causal relationships. Trump’s rallies may have helped him, even in the places where he underperformed in 2020. Maybe they prevented him from doing worse.
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:17 PM
 
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The rallies did correlate to unpaid campaign debts, leaving cities, towns and counties all over the country waiting for their expenses to be paid.

Trump the scam artist strikes again ...
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:31 PM
 
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Big Trump rallies did correlate to votes. The MSM wants you to believe otherwise - and that Biden supporters pitiful lack of attendance at rallies doesn't correlate to the fake numbers manipulated for him in the voting system. WTF up and think for yourself and not what the media is pushing.
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:31 PM
 
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The rallies did correlate to unpaid campaign debts, leaving cities, towns and counties all over the country waiting for their expenses to be paid.

Trump the scam artist strikes again ...
As opposed to democrats Burn Loot Murder in cities across the nation causing in billion dollars in damage this past spring and summer? The democrats have their own rallies too, refer to as riots and loots.


But but but what about Trump rallies.



GTFO here
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Especially when democrats control the voting machines, as Obama once bragged...
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:44 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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As opposed to democrats Burn Loot Murder in cities across the nation causing in billion dollars in damage this past spring and summer? The democrats have their own rallies too, refer to as riots and loots.


But but but what about Trump rallies.



GTFO here
Yes, the Biden rallies were way over the top. Say what you want about the Trump rallies, but at least at HIS rallies, properties weren't looted and burned.
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Old 11-29-2020, 12:47 PM
 
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I want to know the percent of people who ever go to any political rally. I bet it's not very much. I have zero interest in ever going to one for any candidate, yet I still voted.

I have done calculations many times with the various rally claims in this forum, like "X% of attendees were Democrats!" and it usually amounted to less than 1% or maybe 1% of registered Democrats in that state. It just doesn't mean as much as it appears.
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