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I was alive when some of those laws got overturned and/or new laws enacted to start erasing them. In other words, I first hand experienced the direct impact of some of those laws - I am not dismissing their damage. What I will tell you though, in no uncertain terms, is that the black family was more robust then and the black father had a more significant POSITIVE role in the community back then. The War on Poverty robbed black males of their manhood and much of the crime, particularly “respect” motivated types, we see today is a result of their attempt to reclaim it. Lyndon Johnson, may he burn in Hell, knew exactly what he was doing when he did it, too. Read up on it.
I completely agree with you regarding the role of a father. Fathers have an immeasurable role to play and, as such, the lack of fathers with have an extremely negative impact on any community. Yes, I’m very much aware that the “War on Poverty” was willful but will definitely read up more on it.
It just seems like the African-American community suffered one ill after another. It’s going to take time for more lasting change to come about.
Where do these Black people fit in discussions about Black achievement?
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Perhaps most surprising is that, by many measures, the most-educated immigrant group in the U.S. isn't East Asians. It’s Africans.
According to Census data, more than 43 percent of African immigrants hold a bachelor’s degree or higher -- slightly more than immigrants from East Asia. Nigerian immigrants are especially educated, with almost two-thirds holding college degrees -- a significantly higher percentage even than Chinese or South Korean immigrants. African immigrants are also very likely to hold advanced degrees...
It Isn't Just Asian Immigrants Who Thrive
Unlike illegals, legal immigrants are vetted. The crooks and uneducated usually don't get citizenship. Not that you are saying different.
Someone already came up with an explanation for it, John Uzo Ogbu. It’s culture. His research, by the way, indicates that by the third generation, at least at the time of his research, the advantages had faded and the outcomes had come to more closely resemble that of descendants of slaves. According to him it centers around the concept of voluntary versus involuntary immigration and it is the attitudes of the individual that shifts, not the opportunities. He got quite a bit of blowback once people realized what his theories indicated - black students' own cultural attitudes hindered academic achievement and that these attitudes are too often neglected in discussions of how to remedy disparate outcomes.
Supporting that concept is that there is only one school system in America where racial achievement gaps do not exist - Department of Defense Schools. Why? Culture. In the military schools your prominent group identity is military brat and your perception of your peer group is more influenced by your parent’s rank than your race. I hate saying it but three-fourths of the disconnect in trying to have racial discussions is that blacks identity ourselves primarily first by our race and for whites it’s way down the line - long after gender, marital status, profession, religion, region of birth, etc...
A study of over 1 million students in ~grades 3-8, 1st generation out performed 3rd generation in testing by a noticeable difference.
They prove claims about systemic racism preventing black achievement to be false. Smart, educated blacks succeed in America just as smart, educated non-blacks do.
Exactly. "Just as poor kids are just as smart as rich kids".
A study of over 1 million students in ~grades 3-8, 1st generation out performed 3rd generation in testing by a noticeable difference.
The best thing for people of African origin is to do our best to maintain cultural ties with our country of origin. Sadly that isn’t popular for the around 80 percent whose ties were purposefully destroyed. But for the rest of us, it’s critical.
LOL...no the problem is not racists.....the problem is alienating yourself
LOLOL...really? So are all other groups with specific cultural names alienating themselves or just the ones that you’ve decided aren’t allowed to have culturally specific names?
I completely agree with you regarding the role of a father. Fathers have an immeasurable role to play and, as such, the lack of fathers with have an extremely negative impact on any community. Yes, I’m very much aware that the “War on Poverty” was willful but will definitely read up more on it.
It just seems like the African-American community suffered one ill after another. It’s going to take time for more lasting change to come about.
Good post. I was in my late teens when the whole push to destigmatize single montherhood and the "you don't need a man to help raise your kids" was a very real thing.
The TV character Murphy Brown was sort of a fictional role model (forgetting that she was well paid and had a big support staff etc.) who actively decided to become a single mom.
VP Dan Quayle pointed to this as a bad idea, bad example.....and got blown up by feminists for his "backward views". It turned into a political thing (sigh, what doesn't) where anti-science types clamored how it was empowering blah blah blah ignoring reality and quayle was pilloried as anti-woman.
You do realize that when they talk about systematic racism, they are talking about the US, right? Not Africa.
You do realize African immigrants are often darker with a more distinct accent than African Americans right? You do realize that African immigrants often retain their foreign culture and roots while America is the only culture African Americans know right?
If they can succeed and prosper, we African Americans have ZERO excuse.
It just seems like the African-American community suffered one ill after another. It’s going to take time for more lasting change to come about.
Did Jews, Asians, and African immigrants not experience similar ills? Is America not rich enough to provide adequate opportunities for any demographic? Stop the excuses. There is no time, we are out of time. It’s 2020, if we haven’t figured out how to prosper by now, the only future we have is regression.
It’s not rocket science. You need fathers in the home and to value education. Education needs to be the church and religion of the black community.
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