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I have said this before on a couple other threads but think it is worth repeating:
The same pieces of paper on which the Republicans did quite well in Senate and House elections were the ones on which Trump lost his election. So if you feel all those Republican wins were fraudulent also, I would give you credit for being reasonable. The most likely explanation, however, is that Republicans just didn't like Trump. They voted for their Republican candidates in the Senate and House but didn't vote for Trump as president.
Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
I voted for President on the same ballot as Senate, House and local offices. So did you. Likely did every other American.
Your logic is sound. Theirs is simply absent.
What speaks volumes is when House/Senate Republicans claiming that there was widespread fraud in a state like GA are asked if their OWN election was fraudulent... they say "no." That's all you need to know. They expect us to believe that somehow the votes for JUST President were problematic, but not House, Senate, Governor, etc etc. Even though they counted these votes multiple times, checked the hand count vs the machine tally and then checked the signatures.
What the past four years has shown is it that if you repeat a lie often enough, it can become truth to 74M people - enough that some subset of those people will attack the US government. And some of those 74M will still support that subset.
Mods have said in response to similar questions like yours that it isn't their job to discipline people for posting false information. That's the job of people replying in their threads.
Glad to hear that. I feel a little guilty sometimes about unloading on some of these folks, since they seem to be so out of touch with reality.
I voted for President on the same ballot as Senate, House and local offices. So did you. Likely did every other American.
Your logic is sound. Theirs is simply absent.
What speaks volumes is when House/Senate Republicans claiming that there was widespread fraud in a state like GA are asked if their OWN election was fraudulent... they say "no." That's all you need to know. They expect us to believe that somehow the votes for JUST President were problematic, but not House, Senate, Governor, etc etc. Even though they counted these votes multiple times, checked the hand count vs the machine tally and then checked the signatures.
What the past four years has shown is it that if you repeat a lie often enough, it can become truth to 74M people - enough that some subset of those people will attack the US government. And some of those 74M will still support that subset.
Trump in 2016-2018 most republican's and lot of independent voters accepted him over the establishment myself being one of those voters. When the Ukraine incident happened I started to question my support for him he was getting more extreme. It seemed to me after the impeachment was over Trump became much more extreme with conspiracies like a lot of people thought it was just bad politics like the birther conspiracy. I didn't understand why Trump would risk so much if Biden was not a threat to getting reelected? The Ukraine incident highlighted Trump didn't think much of himself if he could not win the election over Joe Biden.
When covid hit Trump went down the rabbit hole I came to realize that Trump really believed in these conspiracies it wasn't a joke, or smearing a political rival. When he got up said to inject disinfectants I made up my mind I have to vote for a democrat get rid of an insane person. Fast forward to today confirms to me that Trump is really insane he truly believes the election was rigged. He has been able to convince 1000's of others that the election was rigged no matter what. You can have all the election commissions you want MAGA's are never going to accept the election results.
All it took to swing some states to Biden were some independents and 1% of Republicans switching to Biden. So while the vast majority of Trump supporters remained Trump supporters, he lost some of those and that cost him dearly.
The City-Data Politics/Controversies is the upscale version of Stormfront, for the more genteel (it's relative ) types who like to pretend they're different in substance from the the low-class poop-smearing rabble of the sort that went wilding through the Capitol.
They love to urge that mob on, while at the same time disdaining them and not wanting them in their neighborhood - not because of ideological differences but because they never deign to associate with the unwashed masses that they consider beneath them. But so long as that rabble does their bidding without asking anything in return but disingenuous platitudes, they're happy.
Suckered? LOL, we weren't suckered at all, it WAS fraudulent voting!
Sure, sure. Take it to the Supreme Court. Oh, that's right....... lol.
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