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Old 12-01-2020, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Why do I say this?

Well, over on twitter I told a young lefty that she had been scammed, because Covid 19 has a 99.7% survival rate if you get it and are < 70 years old.

Instead of disputing that fact or trying to learn something, I got blocked.

I rest my case.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:18 AM
 
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This is not 1918 where over 30,000 physicians are overseas in the army so they are not able to treat the sick at home, this is not 1918 when they did not have ventilators. Its not only the abhorrent number of dying, it is the survivors who have long term health issues and those we are still learning about.

Do we really want to wait until this turns into a 1918 situation? Where I live, there were so many sick farm workers that prisoners had to go milk cows and milk was rationed; in PA they are still uncovering mass graves there were not enough grave diggers. Another one was just uncovered.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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This is not 1918 where over 30,000 physicians are overseas in the army so they can't treat the sick at home, this is not 1918 when they did not have ventilators. Its not only the abhorrent number of dying, it is the survivors who have long term health issues and those we are still learning about.
Nope, it's the shocking loss of freedom and government over-reach that is the real concern.

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Old 12-01-2020, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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You don't argue facts and logic with people who make emotional based arguments.

Its like the 15,000 non suicide gun deaths vs 850,000 abortions argument despite the left continuing to want to ban guns and have abortion on demand. Cognitive dissonance.

Same can be said about the right and ignoring the majority votes on legalizing marijuana. The people have spoken...we are the party of freedom...but drugs are bad! Your majority vote doesn't matter! Were gonna nullify your amendment based on a technicality. No pot for you.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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You don't argue facts and logic with people who make emotional based arguments.

Its like the 15,000 no suicide gun deaths vs 850,000 abortions argument despite the left continuing to want to ban guns and have abortion on demand. Cognitive dissonance.

Same can be said about the right and ignoring the majority votes on legalizing marijuana. The people have spoken...we are the party of freedom...but drugs are bad! Your majority vote doesn't matter! Were gonna nullify your amendment based on a technicality. No pot for you.
I agree with you on all of these points.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:25 AM
 
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Stay away from twitter.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:30 AM
 
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Nope, it's the shocking loss of freedom and governemnt over-reach that is the real concern.
We are using less stringent methods than were used in the epidemic of 1793 in Philadelphia, the yellow fever epidemics of the early 1800's and so forth. In Norfolk, there is still a street called Quarantine Road. Break the quarantine and you were forced to live there.

As the Framers recognized, control of epidemics is a function of government which is why President Washington signed An Act Relative to Quarantine in 1796 and President Adams signed the 1799 Act Respecting Quarantines and Health Laws in 1799. (President Adams and Vice-President Jefferson were bitter political foes, but on the 1799 legislation Jefferson attached his signature which showed bipartisanship on this issue.)
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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No, Leftists don't like facts, truth and honesty because it exposes their emotionally based fantasy world.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:55 AM
 
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When the cholera pandemic of the 1830's hit the small towns of the midwest, it was met with fear and denial. Detroit, St. Louis all lost thousands. Towns like Napoleon, IN lost over 10% of their population. Its little surprise since they knew few ways to combat the disease. Now we are in a pandemic we are still learning about. We do know however that unlike how they thought cholera was spread, we know its not spread by electrical disturbances in the atmosphere or by miasmas. Maybe some would prefer the reaction of Virginia officials in 1950 who waited too long to respond to a polio outbreak. The summer of 1950 is remembered in VA as the summer without children. A particularly deadly form of polio hit the state - polio usually did not kill - and authorities waited too long...One of my playmates died of it (yes I am old).

Some might think having to put in a septic system or connecting to the sewer system is an infringement on their rights to do with their property what they want, but these were health measures instituted after the cholera pandemic of the 1830's. After all, a person has to work to make the money to have the system installed or for the connection and the taxes for the sewer, that could be an unfair burden. We could go back to what they were doing in Denver before Denver Water took over the water supply: open ditches of sewage which then contaminated the drinking water with regular cholera outbreaks.

Now its time to go put on my mask and make groceries.
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Old 12-01-2020, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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That is why I never participated in any social media except City-Data. I suggest all Conservatives ditch the rest of them, & cable TV and any newspaper subscriptions theymight have.

These media companies cannot survive with only 1/2 of Americans seeing their ads. Cut them off.
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