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Old 12-02-2020, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I'm not sure about libertarians. As a group, they don't seem all that inclined to passion.

But "libertarians on steroids", the anarchists, do.
Libertarians are capitalists and antifa are communists. Anarchism isn't a singular ideology, and spans from anarcho-capitalism to anarcho-communism to anarcho-syndicalism to anarcho-primitivism.

When you say "libertarians on steroids", you must be talking about anarcho-capitalists, but I can assure you that none of the rioters/looters were anarcho-capitalists.

The anarchist ideologies I listed above are far more different from each other than the US system of government is different from the Chinese system of government(both are authoritarian capitalist).

I don't expect you to understand the difference, but you could research them. You probably have a vague idea about anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-communism, but few have even heard of the others. You could probably classify me as an anarcho-primitivist...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

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Old 12-02-2020, 06:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
Out of a strong desire to allow for protests and demonstrations, yes, looting occurred.

The far right would have liked to err on the side of squashing freedom of speech and assembly, and the far left wanted to err on the side of being abundantly open to free speech and assembly, even if that meant the inevitable thugs that would loot and burn late in the night.

No one, NO governor or mayor wanted looting and burning. It was just a part of the package of allowing freedom of assembly and speech. And how much you value THAT, vs value quiet, safer streets.








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ROFLMAO.
I have this vision of ClaraC sitting in a rocking chair knitting afghan blankets while watching CNN and MSNBC all day. If it's on TV it must be true, right Clara?
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Old 12-02-2020, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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another cop just shot teens in a car in Cocoa beach FL - one teen just got in the car unaware there was even a problem, and mom screaming as the cops pulled up-- NO we have to FIX this instant draw mentality!!!

corruption in the judicial system MUST stop! judge and cops arresting teens for money...


https://nypost.com/2014/02/23/film-d...ayoff-scandal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...ns-car-deputy/
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:17 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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another cop just shot teens in a car in Cocoa beach FL - one teen just got in the car unaware there was even a problem, and mom screaming as the cops pulled up-- NO we have to FIX this instant draw mentality!!!

corruption in the judicial system MUST stop! judge and cops arresting teens for money...


https://nypost.com/2014/02/23/film-d...ayoff-scandal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...ns-car-deputy/
In your first link, the judge, who is a Dem, was convicted and imprisoned. Yes it is sad that he'd gotten away with it for so long but he's paying the price now. Bad people do bad things and yes they should be stopped, it doesn't matter if they are a judge or if they are on the streets burning looting and murdering, they should be stopped. Don't you agree?

Your second link, that situation happened just recently and hasn't been investigated fully yet, as far as I know. But...
The cops thought it was a stolen car.
The driver would not stop after being told to stop 7 times.
Even a witness in the car said they could hear the cop telling them to stop.
Weapons were found in the car.
The driver drove straight towards one of the cops, seeming with the intent to hit him.

All things that should be considered what not to do when stopped by the cops, right? So, why are you even bringing this situation up? How many businesses do you think will be burned, people injured or killed during the upcoming riots that will most likely happen over this?
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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another cop just shot teens in a car in Cocoa beach FL - one teen just got in the car unaware there was even a problem, and mom screaming as the cops pulled up-- NO we have to FIX this instant draw mentality!!!

corruption in the judicial system MUST stop! judge and cops arresting teens for money...


https://nypost.com/2014/02/23/film-d...ayoff-scandal/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...ns-car-deputy/

First, the cops were following up on a stolen car report....what did you want them to do?



Second, did you even watch the damn video? The car tried to run the cop over.....and you call that quick draw mentally? The other cop told the driver to stop several times, but no, they tried to run the cop over....


First link is from 2014, were you mad then?
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I seriously doubt any of these goons are Trumpers either,..just FYI.

I'd peg them as having more in common with the left, but that's just me.

I am merely posting it to show it is not an isolated AutoZone edgelord.

If you wanna see the trumpers, then we can point to the Kyle Rittenhouse's out there. As a reaction to these goons.
The motivations of Rittenhouse and the others with him were apolitical. It's not Trumpian to want to protect local businesses from arsonists and looters.
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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The motivations of Rittenhouse and the others with him were apolitical. It's not Trumpian to want to protect local businesses from arsonists and looters.
He travelled accross state lines and had joined up with like minded/organized people. How is that local or apolitical. Which is not to say Trump is responsible for this kid's brand of craziness but he was political.
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:32 AM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-p...dows-4-arrests

Guess they don’t care about you Joe..and why isn’t Joe denouncing this crap telling them to stop destroying businesses..to stop this craziness. Because BLM doesn’t care who is in office they will keep this crap up, til they get what they want. No police...watch the murder rate.
Who said that protests would stop once Biden was elected? Not Democrats.

Some republicans might have said that, on the grounds that the protests were only political to help Biden get elected. But then those same idiots said that Covid-19 would no longer be in the news once the election was over.
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:54 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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He travelled accross state lines and had joined up with like minded/organized people. How is that local or apolitical. Which is not to say Trump is responsible for this kid's brand of craziness but he was political.
Most likely he'd spent a lot of time in that town. He had a job in that town. He helped clean graffiti from buildings in that town. He has friends in that town. That would make it local.


Either he or the friend he was with, when cleaning up the graffiti, received a phone call asking for them to help watch over a business. He has some training in first aid, it seems, so he thought he could help the protesters by bandaging up their minor injuries. He's been seen on video offering to help and helping them with their injuries. The 'group' he was with seemed to be like minded but not organized. Seems they had all just gotten together for a few hours on one single night, that hardly makes them 'organized'. Maybe he just felt a bit safer with others around him.
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Old 12-02-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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He wasn't elected. Now they want their money back.
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