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Old 12-01-2020, 07:10 PM
 
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Seems somebody talked pardoned and it is being investigated by the DOJ.

 
Old 12-01-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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He wants a pardon, for what. He wants one to cover the present and future BS he gets into. It doesnt work that way.

''To use the executive power of a governor or president to forgive a person charged with a crime or convicted of a crime.''
 
Old 12-01-2020, 08:22 PM
 
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He wants a pardon, for what. He wants one to cover the present and future BS he gets into. It doesnt work that way.

''To use the executive power of a governor or president to forgive a person charged with a crime or convicted of a crime.''
Trump might be able to for crimes that have already occured. What is important is the crime has to have taken place before the pardon can be issued.

Pre-emptive Presidential Pardons

Can you be pardoned for a crime before you’re ever charged?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...h-a-crime.html

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power “extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.” (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.
 
Old 12-01-2020, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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It's a slippery slope. The mere act of pardoning oneself and others not charged with commiting (or have known to commit) a crime is in of itself an admission of guilt.

It would make for interesting legal review and legislation!
 
Old 12-01-2020, 09:24 PM
 
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Am I reading this incorrectly?

Someone (a Trump campaign donator) tried to bribe Trump on behalf of his/her client?

Also - scroll to page 15/line #6.

The name is redacted and then there is a very clear 'S. This is the person doing the alleged bribing, yes?

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